My boss is The non-delegator kind. she does everything herself. I do it and she will redo it. I check and she will re-check. A frustrating boss who has little confidence in herself, even less in me. I feel very marginalized, bypassed. I've sent numerous emails on initiatives that I want to undertake but never got any response. Her idea of giving me responsibility is giving me charge of organising Diwali sweets and judging a fancy dress competition.
The problem is that she sits in Mumbai and i am in Delhi. I've tried to communicate with her but it hasn't had any positive results. She just ignores me and gives me vague answers. Her communication is all about 'I I I' and talks so much that it's tiresome and unbecoming of someone who's heading a function.
Honestly, i believe that i can do a far better job than she does but she's smartly fooled the senior management into believing she's doing a fantastic job.
I just don't know how to handle this situation. I want to do a lot more and feel that I am not learning anything. Please help.
From India, Delhi
The problem is that she sits in Mumbai and i am in Delhi. I've tried to communicate with her but it hasn't had any positive results. She just ignores me and gives me vague answers. Her communication is all about 'I I I' and talks so much that it's tiresome and unbecoming of someone who's heading a function.
Honestly, i believe that i can do a far better job than she does but she's smartly fooled the senior management into believing she's doing a fantastic job.
I just don't know how to handle this situation. I want to do a lot more and feel that I am not learning anything. Please help.
From India, Delhi
Dear Frn, Evn I am facing the same problm.....the only solutions to push off, otherwise we will stuck in comfort zone, which is horrible. "smarter we plan, faster we execute"....Keep rockin......
From India, Mangaluru
18From India, Mangaluru
i’ve been trying to get out but in this economic slump, it’s difficult to get a job. any other suggestion while i am here?
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
Keep learning things theoratically, do training programs for ur people in Personality development topic, give solution for some practical problems posted out here in citehr, keep urself updated by creative concepts, keep writing ur own creative concepts and share with needy people and very important thing is keep trying for gud openin.:icon1:
From India, Mangaluru
From India, Mangaluru
Hi,
Identify certaine areas where u do not require the approval of ur senior.Things like organising Friday events (games ) etc which do not require any monetary support from the senior.
It is not clear from ur post if you are handling the HRA or Employee care role .
Try to connect with a peer of ur boss & explain the situation & seek advice .
Last but the more effective one is always talk straight to ur boss tell her that though u require her guidence & support u are in aposition to handle things independently.Disple her doubts on your capability .
You will find such resistence in all organisation as the boss has his own insecurities to deal with .So the best way to do that is tell him ur his friend than a foe.
Warm Regards
Ramya
From India
Identify certaine areas where u do not require the approval of ur senior.Things like organising Friday events (games ) etc which do not require any monetary support from the senior.
It is not clear from ur post if you are handling the HRA or Employee care role .
Try to connect with a peer of ur boss & explain the situation & seek advice .
Last but the more effective one is always talk straight to ur boss tell her that though u require her guidence & support u are in aposition to handle things independently.Disple her doubts on your capability .
You will find such resistence in all organisation as the boss has his own insecurities to deal with .So the best way to do that is tell him ur his friend than a foe.
Warm Regards
Ramya
From India
hi frnd, very simple...keep on tkng her advice for every little thng.....and ultimately she will gv up.... TRY IT!.. frnd
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Thanks for the advice!
I am an HR Generalist now, previously i had an extensive recruitment background. I want to get into comp & ben, Performance management etc. The problem in the current org is that HR is new and this is an industry where HR has never existed. it was handled by Finance. HR's come into being only a little over a year in our organisation.
but it's appalling to see that HR, headed by my boss, has achieved so little so far. she herself is not from a hardcore HR background, her strength lies only in training. perhaps that's why she's not reclaimed back the HR role from Finance and each time i talk of C&B initiatives, even policies, she says that she can decide only after consulting with Finance, a decision that never comes. She has about 18 years of experience and the team she has in Mumbai consists of secretaries and data entry operators who've moved into HR. obviously they haven't gone through adequate training and do not understand HR's role beyond paper pushing.
sometimes i wonder why she even hired me?! clearly my career aspirations and background do not match the rest of the team. And if she wanted to hire someone capable and senior enough, i don't understand why she can't empower me so i can do my job effectively?! at the time of the interview, she made it look like a challenging job where i would have the freedom to implement my ideas '' it's a blank canvas, feel free to paint'' is what she had said.And i didn't want to do just a maintenance job in HR. so i joined and how i've been duped!
in addition to this i have to face hostility from the Finance guys who are another bunch of inefficient idiots! unfortunately they've been hired by the Delhi Head so they're well protected. but me, no one cares about!
to give you a small example of how deeply this is affecting me - we'll be moving to a new office very soon. the other day we were going through the floor plan. my room is rather small, in fact the smallest. of course, the Finance guy's room is 3 times the size of my room. i dreamed that we'd shifted to the new office and that i was looking for my room. There it was , big letters in shiny steel hooked outside the door - 'HR'. i stepped in to find that it was in fact a bathroom!!! one side with the bathtub and the other side was the basin and toilet. i objected and told them that that was no place for anyone to work in! they said that the bathtub was the perfect place for storing files and that i could use the toilet to sit on and work on my laptop :(
so humiliating! shows how demoralized i am and how i think my position and work is viewed by the management here!
i've had too many movements in my career and i really wanted to stay on in a company this time and grow within the org. the CEO, who my boss reports into, also sits in Mumbai, it's hard for me to reach him.
isn't it funny, we talk of bad managers and how HR can intervene and sort out issues. we suggest transfers to different teams. but how does one cope in a situation when the Head of HR herself is the problem for her team member??
and i sometimes even wonder about the seriousness and commitment of our CEO towards HR, clearly can't he see what the Head HR is upto for the last one year? there is still no automation (we do everything manually on paper), policies haven't been revised and laid down as yet either! she's just trying to please the CEO by working on mission and vision statements but the policies that govern day to day running of the org that directly effect employee benefits still haven't been worked upon! i don't have answers to employee entitlements!
sighhh! any ideas?!
From India, Delhi
I am an HR Generalist now, previously i had an extensive recruitment background. I want to get into comp & ben, Performance management etc. The problem in the current org is that HR is new and this is an industry where HR has never existed. it was handled by Finance. HR's come into being only a little over a year in our organisation.
but it's appalling to see that HR, headed by my boss, has achieved so little so far. she herself is not from a hardcore HR background, her strength lies only in training. perhaps that's why she's not reclaimed back the HR role from Finance and each time i talk of C&B initiatives, even policies, she says that she can decide only after consulting with Finance, a decision that never comes. She has about 18 years of experience and the team she has in Mumbai consists of secretaries and data entry operators who've moved into HR. obviously they haven't gone through adequate training and do not understand HR's role beyond paper pushing.
sometimes i wonder why she even hired me?! clearly my career aspirations and background do not match the rest of the team. And if she wanted to hire someone capable and senior enough, i don't understand why she can't empower me so i can do my job effectively?! at the time of the interview, she made it look like a challenging job where i would have the freedom to implement my ideas '' it's a blank canvas, feel free to paint'' is what she had said.And i didn't want to do just a maintenance job in HR. so i joined and how i've been duped!
in addition to this i have to face hostility from the Finance guys who are another bunch of inefficient idiots! unfortunately they've been hired by the Delhi Head so they're well protected. but me, no one cares about!
to give you a small example of how deeply this is affecting me - we'll be moving to a new office very soon. the other day we were going through the floor plan. my room is rather small, in fact the smallest. of course, the Finance guy's room is 3 times the size of my room. i dreamed that we'd shifted to the new office and that i was looking for my room. There it was , big letters in shiny steel hooked outside the door - 'HR'. i stepped in to find that it was in fact a bathroom!!! one side with the bathtub and the other side was the basin and toilet. i objected and told them that that was no place for anyone to work in! they said that the bathtub was the perfect place for storing files and that i could use the toilet to sit on and work on my laptop :(
so humiliating! shows how demoralized i am and how i think my position and work is viewed by the management here!
i've had too many movements in my career and i really wanted to stay on in a company this time and grow within the org. the CEO, who my boss reports into, also sits in Mumbai, it's hard for me to reach him.
isn't it funny, we talk of bad managers and how HR can intervene and sort out issues. we suggest transfers to different teams. but how does one cope in a situation when the Head of HR herself is the problem for her team member??
and i sometimes even wonder about the seriousness and commitment of our CEO towards HR, clearly can't he see what the Head HR is upto for the last one year? there is still no automation (we do everything manually on paper), policies haven't been revised and laid down as yet either! she's just trying to please the CEO by working on mission and vision statements but the policies that govern day to day running of the org that directly effect employee benefits still haven't been worked upon! i don't have answers to employee entitlements!
sighhh! any ideas?!
From India, Delhi
Hi friend,
Your current situation is really alarming.... In the current scenario you don't have much option left. But I would suggest that next time you send an email to your HR Head on any initiatives or any other issue related to HR policies make sure you call her & inform her about the mail. Ask for a feedback & suggestion on your mail. If you don't get any response for the email with the given time send send her a reminder mail & mark CC to your CEO. This will definitely help you. This is the best way to get in touch with your CEO also with HR related issues.
If you don't get positive feedback from your management than its better to look for better option than your current position otherwise it will spoil your precious time.
From India, Delhi
Your current situation is really alarming.... In the current scenario you don't have much option left. But I would suggest that next time you send an email to your HR Head on any initiatives or any other issue related to HR policies make sure you call her & inform her about the mail. Ask for a feedback & suggestion on your mail. If you don't get any response for the email with the given time send send her a reminder mail & mark CC to your CEO. This will definitely help you. This is the best way to get in touch with your CEO also with HR related issues.
If you don't get positive feedback from your management than its better to look for better option than your current position otherwise it will spoil your precious time.
From India, Delhi
Your's is an extreme case. Dealing and tackling boss(es) is one of the most important behavirol aspect of a HR professional. I'm sure you have read "Mahabharat" where Dropodi efficiently managerd 5 boss(es) (read five Pandava). Never bypass your "Boss". Tackling boss (read seniors) is an art and it varies from industry to industry, function to function; more importantly the culture of the organization. A little more details of the industry of which you belong to; and the business activities in your Delhi office along with the hirarchy, may perhaps give us some basics to make you available some alternative initiatves how to overcome and win.
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
hey ppl...
i face a somewhat similar problem... i have joined a new firm just a few months back as a HR Generalist... and right from the start i have been facing a lot of problems in dealing with the higher management... the HR dept has no powers at all.. and everything has to be routed throu the MD and VP operations... and i'm talking abt the petty day to day issuses like stationary, attendance n all...
now a few days back my boss and i had a meeting with the MD and VP and we raised these points.. the response we got wasshocking to say the least.. the MD bluntly told me that he never understood wht the HR guys a supposed to do..!!
now since joining i have prepared every company policy and guideline from the scratch... and the same have been approved n all by these two above mentioned gentlemen... but when i comes to implimentation.. these two are the first to disapprove.. its like they want to run the company on there whims and fancies...
going to the chairman is not an option as he is the VP's father..
and changing the job is also not on.. as i don't want to leave my first job so soon..
plz help..
thanks and regards
karan
From India, New Delhi
i face a somewhat similar problem... i have joined a new firm just a few months back as a HR Generalist... and right from the start i have been facing a lot of problems in dealing with the higher management... the HR dept has no powers at all.. and everything has to be routed throu the MD and VP operations... and i'm talking abt the petty day to day issuses like stationary, attendance n all...
now a few days back my boss and i had a meeting with the MD and VP and we raised these points.. the response we got wasshocking to say the least.. the MD bluntly told me that he never understood wht the HR guys a supposed to do..!!
now since joining i have prepared every company policy and guideline from the scratch... and the same have been approved n all by these two above mentioned gentlemen... but when i comes to implimentation.. these two are the first to disapprove.. its like they want to run the company on there whims and fancies...
going to the chairman is not an option as he is the VP's father..
and changing the job is also not on.. as i don't want to leave my first job so soon..
plz help..
thanks and regards
karan
From India, New Delhi
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