You discuss with your management to provide OVERTIME pay the employee who stay more than office hour and discuss the real situvation, this will automatically change the view every boss will make the team productive not late return to home or late ending the day.
Regards
Vikram
From India, Madras
Regards
Vikram
From India, Madras
Impose penalty upto Rs.500/- day for late sitters. This is being followed in one of the project sites of a reputed organisation.
From India, Lucknow
604From India, Lucknow
Hi,
One more point - the company ends up spending more due to overheads because of people working beyond their hours. If possible, gather the data to substantiate this case and present it to upper management. Numbers speak much louder in these circles.
I feel a top - down approach is the only thing that will be effective here. Upper management must realize and drive this.
One more point - the company ends up spending more due to overheads because of people working beyond their hours. If possible, gather the data to substantiate this case and present it to upper management. Numbers speak much louder in these circles.
I feel a top - down approach is the only thing that will be effective here. Upper management must realize and drive this.
First of all, observe that the employees who are working late are coming on time ,next day morning,If not ask them to come on time in the morning than working late,Make the employees understand they have got a family back at home, in times of necessity only family will support them and not the boss.and finally a person who cannot manage the family of his own,,how he will manage his work.
First of al work should be defined clearly to all also it should be assess on the basis of 8 hrs work shcedule if it is more than than helping hands should be provided to them also to balance work and social life perosn should be free to complete the assignment within time if some impoartanat work which needs regular late sitting it should be divided among other employees too to strengethen and also distribute or sheducle late sitting if requried one ny one not to only one peron
Thsi si what can improve organization culture and morale of emplyee too.
P K MISHRA
From India
Thsi si what can improve organization culture and morale of emplyee too.
P K MISHRA
From India
My working time is 08:00 to 5 PM ,,,,but we do 0730 to 6 PM ,,,,,and some people even do it till 10 PM ,,,
but then i say them ,,,if cannot do it in the whole day ,,,you cannot do it in 1 or 2 more hours
From Korea
but then i say them ,,,if cannot do it in the whole day ,,,you cannot do it in 1 or 2 more hours
From Korea
HI Jayashree
The best remedy for such problem is,define new Processes for late sitting.Employees will have to get Reporting Manager's approval for each extra Hours. Introduce a Late Sitting Approval FORM for the same, which has to be duly signed by the Employee's Reporting Manager.Without the approval note on hand the Corporate Services Personnel or the Security Staff should not allow Employees to stay inside the office after Office hour except for the Shift workers ( shift workers should be given some identity separetly indicating shift timings)
End of the week Late Sitting report has to be sent for Unit Head approval. Where in Unit head will submit a report on Extra working hours to the HR every Week with proper justification for the same.
Based on the report HR & OPerations team can discuss and decide on adding some additional resources( if required) or other alternatives without affecting the profitability of the business. This will also help the organisation how productive the employees are within the Office hours.
Once this is brought to routine Employees will feel the pain of working extra hours in taking approvals and start finishing the work on time and others having extensive work will automatically have the RM approval.
Please try this.
Seniors: Please let me know if any loop holes could be here in this suggestion.
Regards
Lakshmi.N
From India
The best remedy for such problem is,define new Processes for late sitting.Employees will have to get Reporting Manager's approval for each extra Hours. Introduce a Late Sitting Approval FORM for the same, which has to be duly signed by the Employee's Reporting Manager.Without the approval note on hand the Corporate Services Personnel or the Security Staff should not allow Employees to stay inside the office after Office hour except for the Shift workers ( shift workers should be given some identity separetly indicating shift timings)
End of the week Late Sitting report has to be sent for Unit Head approval. Where in Unit head will submit a report on Extra working hours to the HR every Week with proper justification for the same.
Based on the report HR & OPerations team can discuss and decide on adding some additional resources( if required) or other alternatives without affecting the profitability of the business. This will also help the organisation how productive the employees are within the Office hours.
Once this is brought to routine Employees will feel the pain of working extra hours in taking approvals and start finishing the work on time and others having extensive work will automatically have the RM approval.
Please try this.
Seniors: Please let me know if any loop holes could be here in this suggestion.
Regards
Lakshmi.N
From India
Dear Jayshree,
This will give the good result. In our organization it worked. It will reduce cost on telephone and electricity and overtime charges (If your organization is giving over time for office boys). It would be better to send a circular to all employees.
From India, Mumbai
This will give the good result. In our organization it worked. It will reduce cost on telephone and electricity and overtime charges (If your organization is giving over time for office boys). It would be better to send a circular to all employees.
From India, Mumbai
HI,
Recently i recd a mail on this 'working late'.... pls read on... Mail sent by Narayan Murthy to all Infosys staff:
Working Late - the Other Aspect
It's half past 8 in the office but the lights are still on... PCs still running, coffee machines still buzzing... And who's at work? Most of them??? Take a closer look...
All or most specimens are ?? Something male species of the human race...
Look closer... again all or most of them are bachelors...
And why are they sitting late? Working hard? No way!!!
Any guesses???
Let's ask one of them...
Here's what he says... 'What's there 2 do after going home...Here we get to surf, AC, phone, food, coffee that is why I am working late...Importantly no bossssssss!!!!!!!!!!!'
This is the scene in most research centers and software companies and other off-shore offices.
Bachelors 'Passing-Time' during late hours in the office just bcoz they say they've nothing else to do...
Now what r the consequences...
'Working' (for the record only) late hours soon becomes part of the institute or company culture.
With bosses more than eager to provide support to those 'working' late in the form of taxi vouchers, food vouchers and of course good feedback, (oh, he's a hard worker... goes home only to change..!!). They aren't helping things too...
To hell with bosses who don't understand the difference between 'sitting' late and 'working' late!!!
Very soon, the boss start expecting all employees to put in extra working hours.
So, My dear Bachelors let me tell you, life changes when u get married and start having a family... office is no longer a priority, family is... and
That's when the problem starts... b'coz u start having commitments at home too.
For your boss, the earlier 'hardworking' guy suddenly seems to become a 'early leaver' even if u leave an hour after regular time... after doing the same amount of work.
People leaving on time after doing their tasks for the day are labelled as work-shirkers...
Girls who thankfully always (its changing nowadays... though) leave on time are labelled as 'not up to it'. All the while, the bachelors pat their own backs and carry on 'working' not realizing that they r spoiling the work culture at their own place and never realize that they would have to regret at one point of time.
So what's the moral of the story??
* Very clear, LEAVE ON TIME!!!
* Never put in extra time ' unless really needed '
* Don't stay back unnecessarily and spoil your company work culture which will in turn cause inconvenience to you and your colleagues.
There are hundred other things to do in the evening..
Learn music...
Learn a foreign language...
Try a sport... TT, cricket.........
Importantly,get a girl friend or boy friend, take him/her around town...
* And for heaven's sake, net cafe rates have dropped to an all-time low (plus, no fire-walls) and try cooking for a change.
Take a tip from the Smirnoff ad: *'Life's calling, where are you??'*
Please pass on this message to all those colleagues and please do it before leaving time, don't stay back till midnight to forward this!!!
IT'S A TYPICAL INDIAN MENTALITY THAT WORKING FOR LONG HOURS MEANS VERY HARD WORKING & 100% COMMITMENT ETC.
PEOPLE WHO REGULARLY SIT LATE IN THE OFFICE DON'T KNOW TO MANAGE THEIR TIME. SIMPLE !
Regards,
NARAYAN MURTHY.
From India, Indore
Recently i recd a mail on this 'working late'.... pls read on... Mail sent by Narayan Murthy to all Infosys staff:
Working Late - the Other Aspect
It's half past 8 in the office but the lights are still on... PCs still running, coffee machines still buzzing... And who's at work? Most of them??? Take a closer look...
All or most specimens are ?? Something male species of the human race...
Look closer... again all or most of them are bachelors...
And why are they sitting late? Working hard? No way!!!
Any guesses???
Let's ask one of them...
Here's what he says... 'What's there 2 do after going home...Here we get to surf, AC, phone, food, coffee that is why I am working late...Importantly no bossssssss!!!!!!!!!!!'
This is the scene in most research centers and software companies and other off-shore offices.
Bachelors 'Passing-Time' during late hours in the office just bcoz they say they've nothing else to do...
Now what r the consequences...
'Working' (for the record only) late hours soon becomes part of the institute or company culture.
With bosses more than eager to provide support to those 'working' late in the form of taxi vouchers, food vouchers and of course good feedback, (oh, he's a hard worker... goes home only to change..!!). They aren't helping things too...
To hell with bosses who don't understand the difference between 'sitting' late and 'working' late!!!
Very soon, the boss start expecting all employees to put in extra working hours.
So, My dear Bachelors let me tell you, life changes when u get married and start having a family... office is no longer a priority, family is... and
That's when the problem starts... b'coz u start having commitments at home too.
For your boss, the earlier 'hardworking' guy suddenly seems to become a 'early leaver' even if u leave an hour after regular time... after doing the same amount of work.
People leaving on time after doing their tasks for the day are labelled as work-shirkers...
Girls who thankfully always (its changing nowadays... though) leave on time are labelled as 'not up to it'. All the while, the bachelors pat their own backs and carry on 'working' not realizing that they r spoiling the work culture at their own place and never realize that they would have to regret at one point of time.
So what's the moral of the story??
* Very clear, LEAVE ON TIME!!!
* Never put in extra time ' unless really needed '
* Don't stay back unnecessarily and spoil your company work culture which will in turn cause inconvenience to you and your colleagues.
There are hundred other things to do in the evening..
Learn music...
Learn a foreign language...
Try a sport... TT, cricket.........
Importantly,get a girl friend or boy friend, take him/her around town...
* And for heaven's sake, net cafe rates have dropped to an all-time low (plus, no fire-walls) and try cooking for a change.
Take a tip from the Smirnoff ad: *'Life's calling, where are you??'*
Please pass on this message to all those colleagues and please do it before leaving time, don't stay back till midnight to forward this!!!
IT'S A TYPICAL INDIAN MENTALITY THAT WORKING FOR LONG HOURS MEANS VERY HARD WORKING & 100% COMMITMENT ETC.
PEOPLE WHO REGULARLY SIT LATE IN THE OFFICE DON'T KNOW TO MANAGE THEIR TIME. SIMPLE !
Regards,
NARAYAN MURTHY.
From India, Indore
Dear Jayashree,
This is faced in every organisation. Drafting a policy is not an answer to this issue. Its actually proper time management. from d time u come to the stipulated closing hours what u do matters...Any amount of policy will not help u here. What u require to do is to develop a work culture which reduces idle time during normal working hours plus u should be careful in setting reasonable time to finish off an activity.
Regards
Rajiv.
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
This is faced in every organisation. Drafting a policy is not an answer to this issue. Its actually proper time management. from d time u come to the stipulated closing hours what u do matters...Any amount of policy will not help u here. What u require to do is to develop a work culture which reduces idle time during normal working hours plus u should be careful in setting reasonable time to finish off an activity.
Regards
Rajiv.
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
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