Goverment Buerocrates are foolish people. Most of the people either they have no any knowledge of Grass root level about the industry & their employees.
Govt employees all employees like self, No work, No doctor, No attendent, if Dr or attendent have than theri Nakhre, no time to came & go for the Govt employees but they use all rule on Private sector eployees. on every step they asking money.
Ceiling rasing from 10K to, 15K is OK, but ESIC should come under the Private People no Govt Employee envolvment need in this regard.
95% of the Govt Employees are Dacoit in all sector they think about them selves only. One Govt
Stamp Peon is More power full rather than PVT Sevctor Director.
Pls Govt Employees change their attitude or withdraw power from the Govt Employees.
Regards,
Ashwini Kumar
Regards,
Ashwini Kumar
From India, Faridabad
Govt employees all employees like self, No work, No doctor, No attendent, if Dr or attendent have than theri Nakhre, no time to came & go for the Govt employees but they use all rule on Private sector eployees. on every step they asking money.
Ceiling rasing from 10K to, 15K is OK, but ESIC should come under the Private People no Govt Employee envolvment need in this regard.
95% of the Govt Employees are Dacoit in all sector they think about them selves only. One Govt
Stamp Peon is More power full rather than PVT Sevctor Director.
Pls Govt Employees change their attitude or withdraw power from the Govt Employees.
Regards,
Ashwini Kumar
Regards,
Ashwini Kumar
From India, Faridabad
Hi,
Pls.understand this way of Govt to raise its revenue to meet our son /daughter /father who are working in GOVT to pay high rated salary & perks.
At one side our own people demand more salary and privilage, then where GOVT will go.They have collect money from you and pay to you.Pls.REMEMBER GOVT IS THE PLACE WHERE POOR CAN PAY AND RICH CAN SPENT.
From India, Madras
1Pls.understand this way of Govt to raise its revenue to meet our son /daughter /father who are working in GOVT to pay high rated salary & perks.
At one side our own people demand more salary and privilage, then where GOVT will go.They have collect money from you and pay to you.Pls.REMEMBER GOVT IS THE PLACE WHERE POOR CAN PAY AND RICH CAN SPENT.
From India, Madras
I think 1st Govt should improve on facilities & then go for such move. In ESI hospital Doctors are giving same medicine for every sickness. As they dont have enough staff & medicines.
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
Hi friends,
Any proposal will have difference opinions!!
It is a facility the government is extending to employees some may get benefited some may not or rather some may not prefer. it is something like a public transport if you want you can board and pay the nominal bus/train charge or hire an AC taxi or own car and travel - short distance but long distance you have depend on train services - at least most of us - except the creamy layer.
See ESIC also from this point of view, then you will be able to appreciate the government move. e.g. an employee drawing a total monthly salary of 16000/- in any private sector with a family of wife, two kids and their parents as dependants, will see this as a blessing but an individual who earns the same 16K at the beginning of carreer will definitely oppose this. This is the practical problem.
End of the day, I am sure, a small minority of employees earning 15K will oppose this idea but let us foreget this issue for the sake of those who cannot afford the private sector medical facilities and support the government in their initiative for supporting the needy.
Rgds
nair
From India, Bangalore
Any proposal will have difference opinions!!
It is a facility the government is extending to employees some may get benefited some may not or rather some may not prefer. it is something like a public transport if you want you can board and pay the nominal bus/train charge or hire an AC taxi or own car and travel - short distance but long distance you have depend on train services - at least most of us - except the creamy layer.
See ESIC also from this point of view, then you will be able to appreciate the government move. e.g. an employee drawing a total monthly salary of 16000/- in any private sector with a family of wife, two kids and their parents as dependants, will see this as a blessing but an individual who earns the same 16K at the beginning of carreer will definitely oppose this. This is the practical problem.
End of the day, I am sure, a small minority of employees earning 15K will oppose this idea but let us foreget this issue for the sake of those who cannot afford the private sector medical facilities and support the government in their initiative for supporting the needy.
Rgds
nair
From India, Bangalore
Hi, Everybody,
I am totally against the increasing the esic ceiling b coz 75% Employees of private sector not avail any esic facility, and they pay contibution regularly.
So I think Esic ceiling should not be increase.
regards
pulkit
From India, New Delhi
I am totally against the increasing the esic ceiling b coz 75% Employees of private sector not avail any esic facility, and they pay contibution regularly.
So I think Esic ceiling should not be increase.
regards
pulkit
From India, New Delhi
I am totally agreeable with the government decision to enhance the limit from the existing 10,000 to 15,000/-.Because most of the employees who are in the cadre of executives are getting less salary than the workes in most of the companies.this ESI benifit will definitely will help them and some of the emloyees it will protect their jobs too.If we are utilizing the facilities ESI is very good.they are providing good services.
so I am welcoming the decision of the Government.
Regards
Y R KOTESWARA RAO
From India, Guntur
so I am welcoming the decision of the Government.
Regards
Y R KOTESWARA RAO
From India, Guntur
I do not agree with Mr. Ramnath and Mr. AKS, who seem to be satisfied with the benefits and services offered by ESIC.
Simple test to judge the quality, quantity, utility and reach of benefits and services offered by ESIC is answers to following questions:
• What is a percentage of employees actually availing benefits from ESIC out of total employees covered under ESIC from a particular factory or organization?
• In case one has to avail health facilities from ESIC, what is a time he/she has to spend at ESIC Office/ Dispensary?
• Are Doctor/s readily available to attend to patients visiting ESIC Dispensary / Hospital?
• How many patients first visit ESIC Dispensary / Hospital and then switchover to private doctors, once they have experience of ESIC?
• Why so many patients prefer costly private practitioner to free ESIC facility?
• Why majority of employees covered under ESIC never go to ESIC Doctors/ESIC Dispensaries/ ESIC Hospitals?
• Does Medicines and Treatments recommended by Doctors are actually available with ESIC?
• Will you personally make use of ESIC Health Facilities?
• What is number of ESIC Members and what is number of members availing ESIC Benefits?
• ESIC is supposed to be a Public Health Organization having many Doctors and Paramedics in their service, but ESIC is filled with only clerical staff. What is percentage of Doctors and Paramedic Staff working with ESIC?
• How many qualified and reputed Medical Practitioners / Doctors are working with ESIC or interested to work with ESIC?
• Most private hospitals are overflowing with patients in spite of hefty fees and charges. Why ESI Hospitals where services are free are generally empty and wear deserted look?
• ESIC is already collecting huge amount of contributions from employees and employers, What is percentage of amount spent on establishment, Administration and salaries of clerical staff vis-à-vis amount spent on Health/Medical Services?
• What is amount of contributions collected vis-à-vis value of medical / health benefits delivered by ESIC?
• Assume there are 100 employees all drawing Rs. 10000 as a salary. Their annual contribution to ESIC will be Rs. 93600. Just imagine and tell what would be the actual cost of Medical / Health Benefit delivered to these 100 employees in a year?
Given a choice of getting cover under Mediclaim instead of coverage of ESIC, what will be choice of mejority of ESIC members?
Just try to reply above questions and decide yourself.
Thanks & Regards
From India, Pune
Simple test to judge the quality, quantity, utility and reach of benefits and services offered by ESIC is answers to following questions:
• What is a percentage of employees actually availing benefits from ESIC out of total employees covered under ESIC from a particular factory or organization?
• In case one has to avail health facilities from ESIC, what is a time he/she has to spend at ESIC Office/ Dispensary?
• Are Doctor/s readily available to attend to patients visiting ESIC Dispensary / Hospital?
• How many patients first visit ESIC Dispensary / Hospital and then switchover to private doctors, once they have experience of ESIC?
• Why so many patients prefer costly private practitioner to free ESIC facility?
• Why majority of employees covered under ESIC never go to ESIC Doctors/ESIC Dispensaries/ ESIC Hospitals?
• Does Medicines and Treatments recommended by Doctors are actually available with ESIC?
• Will you personally make use of ESIC Health Facilities?
• What is number of ESIC Members and what is number of members availing ESIC Benefits?
• ESIC is supposed to be a Public Health Organization having many Doctors and Paramedics in their service, but ESIC is filled with only clerical staff. What is percentage of Doctors and Paramedic Staff working with ESIC?
• How many qualified and reputed Medical Practitioners / Doctors are working with ESIC or interested to work with ESIC?
• Most private hospitals are overflowing with patients in spite of hefty fees and charges. Why ESI Hospitals where services are free are generally empty and wear deserted look?
• ESIC is already collecting huge amount of contributions from employees and employers, What is percentage of amount spent on establishment, Administration and salaries of clerical staff vis-à-vis amount spent on Health/Medical Services?
• What is amount of contributions collected vis-à-vis value of medical / health benefits delivered by ESIC?
• Assume there are 100 employees all drawing Rs. 10000 as a salary. Their annual contribution to ESIC will be Rs. 93600. Just imagine and tell what would be the actual cost of Medical / Health Benefit delivered to these 100 employees in a year?
Given a choice of getting cover under Mediclaim instead of coverage of ESIC, what will be choice of mejority of ESIC members?
Just try to reply above questions and decide yourself.
Thanks & Regards
From India, Pune
I fully agree, as we are unable to take the benefit of the same. One of my colleague is suffering from Kidney failure and medication is too expensive, and are unable for afford the same. She has to visit the ESIC hospital at least two to three times a week for her medicines. Most of the time medicines are not available. Sometimes ESIC staff misplaces the document submitted by her. She has to always purchase the medicines from out, which she cannot afford, but there is no choice. She even complaint to me that the staff at ESIC hospital are very rude and do not cooperate. She has to spend at least half a day, whenever she visits.
I feel they should not increase the slab. Even the employer has to pay nearly three times the amount paid by individuals. ESIC should first improve on their services and then think of increasing the slab.
From India, Mumbai
I feel they should not increase the slab. Even the employer has to pay nearly three times the amount paid by individuals. ESIC should first improve on their services and then think of increasing the slab.
From India, Mumbai
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I agree with the views expressed that the present ceiling on ESIC should not be enhanced.ESIC should improve upon its service.We should encourage Private insurers to come up innovative schemes to provide the benefits envisaged under ESIC.Thanks.qUOTE:
From India, Bangalore
I agree with the views expressed that the present ceiling on ESIC should not be enhanced.ESIC should improve upon its service.We should encourage Private insurers to come up innovative schemes to provide the benefits envisaged under ESIC.Thanks.qUOTE:
From India, Bangalore
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I agree with the views expressed that the present ceiling on ESIC should not be enhanced.ESIC should improve upon its service.We should encourage Private insurers to come up innovative schemes to provide the benefits envisaged under ESIC.The employer and the employee could then be asked to take a policy from private insurers.Thanks.
From India, Bangalore
I agree with the views expressed that the present ceiling on ESIC should not be enhanced.ESIC should improve upon its service.We should encourage Private insurers to come up innovative schemes to provide the benefits envisaged under ESIC.The employer and the employee could then be asked to take a policy from private insurers.Thanks.
From India, Bangalore
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