Ii am very disappointed after reading this post of caption cook. but i wants to clear one thing here that most of HR members of citeHR don't have any proper HR degree or diploma, but they are involved directly / indrectly in the activities of HR like Payroll or recruitments etc because most of the organizations looks for experience, candidates ability to perform any particular job. Only graduate peoples can do the activities like interview scheduling,maintaining HR MIS, Payroll etc. if these peoples want to know more about their work or to pursue any HR degree or diploma for their career growth while working then what is wrong with that.
Most of the peoples do not get chance to continue their study or to pursue master study due to some personal problem (may be financial or any other) like other HR professionals who completes their MBA degree immediately after graduation.
This is my opinion. pls do not hurt any CiteHR member.
Regards
Manoj
From India, Mumbai
Most of the peoples do not get chance to continue their study or to pursue master study due to some personal problem (may be financial or any other) like other HR professionals who completes their MBA degree immediately after graduation.
This is my opinion. pls do not hurt any CiteHR member.
Regards
Manoj
From India, Mumbai
You are correct. I will be more careful next time. Thank you for the feedback Pradeep. I was always a little spelling deficient. I hope that is not another inefficiency prevalent in the HR world that is disappointing my peers.
Folks! For all those who misunderstood the meaning...
It is not peaces but pieces.
Aha! And I used spell check this time:)
Regards,
Kavitha
From India, Bangalore
6Folks! For all those who misunderstood the meaning...
It is not peaces but pieces.
Aha! And I used spell check this time:)
Regards,
Kavitha
From India, Bangalore
Thanks to all I appreciate all respondents for sharing their concerns. I am not worried for qualifications but the quality of questions being asked which are being replied repeateadly or has no substance at all.......
I firmly believe in hard work in advancing in all walks of life rather than quick fix readymade replies to my curiosity. If i have to master the art of one function I have to exert and explore the deapth and search the best justification for the qery i have.
I don't appreciate parasite approach.
Captaincook
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
I firmly believe in hard work in advancing in all walks of life rather than quick fix readymade replies to my curiosity. If i have to master the art of one function I have to exert and explore the deapth and search the best justification for the qery i have.
I don't appreciate parasite approach.
Captaincook
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
Captain,
In India, employers take people with Degree like MSW, PDG's in Management (HR Spec), MBA in HR, MA Sociology, MA Psychology ...working as HR Professionals. This is the supply side. During the last 10 year's growth of IT has been higher than MFG or Pharma etc and during the last 6-8 yrs the Call Center’s boom is there, requirement of HR professionals have gone up considerably. This is the demand side.
Now, when demand is not being met by quality of the supply, you will have such issues. If you analyze this issue, it’s not with the individual but the education system which is bringing out such professionals into main stream of professional life and the employers who are in need of these professional are ready to compromising situation. Considering that we have HR professional’s with an MBA background or an MSW, the practical knowledge he / she gets only in companies after they start their careers. We do have a very limited exposure on rules of the legal legislations or how an appreciative enquiry is conducted. We have high exposure on the amount of theoretical knowledge that these institutions are able to deliver.
We will have quiet a few interesting people out there who are willing to learn & by sharing these professional thoughts. We will have to filter and respond to ideas and issues which we feel are quiet there to be addressed and guide these young professional’s.
Regards
From India
In India, employers take people with Degree like MSW, PDG's in Management (HR Spec), MBA in HR, MA Sociology, MA Psychology ...working as HR Professionals. This is the supply side. During the last 10 year's growth of IT has been higher than MFG or Pharma etc and during the last 6-8 yrs the Call Center’s boom is there, requirement of HR professionals have gone up considerably. This is the demand side.
Now, when demand is not being met by quality of the supply, you will have such issues. If you analyze this issue, it’s not with the individual but the education system which is bringing out such professionals into main stream of professional life and the employers who are in need of these professional are ready to compromising situation. Considering that we have HR professional’s with an MBA background or an MSW, the practical knowledge he / she gets only in companies after they start their careers. We do have a very limited exposure on rules of the legal legislations or how an appreciative enquiry is conducted. We have high exposure on the amount of theoretical knowledge that these institutions are able to deliver.
We will have quiet a few interesting people out there who are willing to learn & by sharing these professional thoughts. We will have to filter and respond to ideas and issues which we feel are quiet there to be addressed and guide these young professional’s.
Regards
From India
Dear all,
I do agree with you all.
Why the people are not getting the pain to see the same post which was read by him long back ?
I have the answer
For example i always thaught that no one expert or human has same knowledge.Eventhough i am master in a particular topic i always wish to see it again because there might be something which i does not know.
The similar attitude might be having others also .Learning is continuous processs if you are feeling pain just post a new topic from your side so that there is no repetation if u start this practice may be in future every post will be the newer one.
(Friends here you means Myself also)
Second point
With out basic knowledge how can be a HR ?
As per my knowledge what i read in my MBA(From AU) is completly different from the practical experience.
For example i had ever read the word payroll in my MBA tenure .
In my first interview the interviewer's first question was
What is payroll?
See that is our education status.
Only a few B-schools can provide the qulitative education .
From India, Hyderabad
I do agree with you all.
Why the people are not getting the pain to see the same post which was read by him long back ?
I have the answer
For example i always thaught that no one expert or human has same knowledge.Eventhough i am master in a particular topic i always wish to see it again because there might be something which i does not know.
The similar attitude might be having others also .Learning is continuous processs if you are feeling pain just post a new topic from your side so that there is no repetation if u start this practice may be in future every post will be the newer one.
(Friends here you means Myself also)
Second point
With out basic knowledge how can be a HR ?
As per my knowledge what i read in my MBA(From AU) is completly different from the practical experience.
For example i had ever read the word payroll in my MBA tenure .
In my first interview the interviewer's first question was
What is payroll?
See that is our education status.
Only a few B-schools can provide the qulitative education .
From India, Hyderabad
Captain Cool Down,
This Is Place For Unknown And Underqualified Like Us. Hardly You Find Matured Hr Professsionals Visit With Few Exception Like Madhu Tk Etc..
We Just Keep This Forum Running By Posting Comic Questions Which May Or May Not Have Substance. But Show Must Go On..
This Is Name Of Game...
Badlu
From Saudi Arabia
This Is Place For Unknown And Underqualified Like Us. Hardly You Find Matured Hr Professsionals Visit With Few Exception Like Madhu Tk Etc..
We Just Keep This Forum Running By Posting Comic Questions Which May Or May Not Have Substance. But Show Must Go On..
This Is Name Of Game...
Badlu
From Saudi Arabia
Yes no one should dare to question the nature of questions posted by us, after all what this site is for. I dont care about my grammar and language or the nature of question as long as I can post a query on this site and just go out and have a cup of coffee or chat with my cute colleague and come back after one hour to again log on and just download the formats and print it and give it to my boss. Even now my boss thinks I have become too intelligent and praises me a lot. Because whatever questions / doubts I have if I ask to my boss he will think I was recruited by mistake, and where else can I get such a easy job. So kudos to cite hr professionals for helping me and replying to my posts so that my job is secure and I can spend more time in canteen with my cute colleague.
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
:-Pwell done ravi ------------------ i really admire you for what ever u said .
and now comming to MR cook
one most important question WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM IF OUR EXPERTS KEEP ON ANSWERING QUESTIONS WHICH THEY HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY ALSO , how many forums in cite hr did you visit , and how many treads do you actually read .???????????
let me tell you you have only mentioned two names from the legal forum , but a lot many of us are indebeted to ppl like OCTIVIOUS , AND Mr Peer for thier contribution............
now the million dollar question ...............
you said you dont like parasitic approach , but tell me something even a big neem tree was small one day , it took a lot of care and proper nuturing for years for it to bear fruits ,
none of us fall from the womb and become hr managers . we all need guidance , cite hr is growing at a 100% rate everyday , so new members always dont know how to go about with thier queries . the simple way is to post it ,
the moderator is there to chuk out irrelevant posts ,
mangers across the world has double standards plzzz understand that and i bet AUSTRALIAN MANAGERS also have double standards . they want us to do everything, even things that they themselves at times are not aware of , this is the time when sites like cite hr comes to assistance .
i maintain THAT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF OUR MEMBERS IN CITE HR............. AND MR COOK PPL AROUND THE GLOBE WRITE THIER QUERIES IN GOOGLE. SO ARE THEY NOT PARASITES??????????????/
From India, Calcutta
and now comming to MR cook
one most important question WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM IF OUR EXPERTS KEEP ON ANSWERING QUESTIONS WHICH THEY HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY ALSO , how many forums in cite hr did you visit , and how many treads do you actually read .???????????
let me tell you you have only mentioned two names from the legal forum , but a lot many of us are indebeted to ppl like OCTIVIOUS , AND Mr Peer for thier contribution............
now the million dollar question ...............
you said you dont like parasitic approach , but tell me something even a big neem tree was small one day , it took a lot of care and proper nuturing for years for it to bear fruits ,
none of us fall from the womb and become hr managers . we all need guidance , cite hr is growing at a 100% rate everyday , so new members always dont know how to go about with thier queries . the simple way is to post it ,
the moderator is there to chuk out irrelevant posts ,
mangers across the world has double standards plzzz understand that and i bet AUSTRALIAN MANAGERS also have double standards . they want us to do everything, even things that they themselves at times are not aware of , this is the time when sites like cite hr comes to assistance .
i maintain THAT YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF OUR MEMBERS IN CITE HR............. AND MR COOK PPL AROUND THE GLOBE WRITE THIER QUERIES IN GOOGLE. SO ARE THEY NOT PARASITES??????????????/
From India, Calcutta
Dear PRIYANKA,
i feel pity 4u. Coz unnecessarily u vented ur anger. U did not understand the point which mr cook wantd 2 highlight. Hope u read the posts once again n undrstand where the so cald hr ppl here need 2 improve.
From India, Pune
i feel pity 4u. Coz unnecessarily u vented ur anger. U did not understand the point which mr cook wantd 2 highlight. Hope u read the posts once again n undrstand where the so cald hr ppl here need 2 improve.
From India, Pune
Well, agreed with most of you as discussed above. Many people here post un-necessary jokes(not related to HR anyway), games, antakshri etc. I have interacted with some seniors here. They provide good support in every field. For me the site is good source for learning if used properly.
Regards
From India, Calcutta
Regards
From India, Calcutta
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