Dear All,
I want to write the whole story before I conclude my problem and thank everyone who reads this mail. I would expect some replies for sure.
I have been working for a reputed travel firm in Hyderabad. Now the story begins with me attending an interview to this well reputed travel corporate. My first round of interview was completed in 5 minutes and the interviewee confirmed me that I have been selected and will have to go thru normal procedure of second round with head of the Sales and 3rd round with HR. don’t ask me how he decided to take me into the system in 5 minutes. I can elaborate that story if someone is interested. Now that I call it a story because this script if made into a film am sure, one would call it the same but than I would say it happened with me and its reality.
I got an offer and I joined with all the hope, good spirits, enthusiasm, force, willingness to work, get myself embedded into the system well. my first impression on this corporate was more like a government “dafter” than a real corporate, my approach to everyone was limited cos of there pessimism which did not helped me understand the process and procedures; however I have to literally prove them to be practical in accepting me. One thing I have to mention is the person (My Boss) who recruited me sits in Bangalore and I am only sales Guy here reporting to him with bunch of idiotic operational staff who are full of egos and double standards.
I some how managed to get close with the Sr.Manager Operations, this guy was having a immense experience in the field and made me understand my responsibilities in the company very clearly, with his support I have started cracking accounts, and then my first six months of honeymoon period was coming to an end but by than I almost established myself in the company. With my well behaving and friendly nature I have made an impression in the peoples mind inside and outside the organization and things were moving fine.
Due to some reason the Sr.Ops Guy has to be transferred to other location, but before he leave... because of the kind of rapport we share , he promised me that he will help me in getting one big account which I was targeting , I thanked him for all the support and he moves on. Meanwhile I was still in the market cracking more accounts, understanding competitions, building relations, gaining more public respect I almost become an entrepreneur myself and driving business as if its my own.. Things were not moving that great but yes there is a medium pace. The factors that also influence the movement were support from the seniors, market volatility, bribe, gifting. Etc. so basically market and support was pathetic to move in fast pace, and we being a reputed firm cannot involve in any unethical things what competition is doing to conquer the market.
Now comes the twist, one fine evening I get a call from this senior Ops guy who is now become GM Ops for the region there, calls me and reminds me his promise , which I used to keep on reminding him whenever I used to call him or lets say follow up with him. He stays that he is keeping his promise by actually getting me this corporate which I was targeting for 15 months, it’s a big one, a big company who requested our travel management services proposal. Finally the dream was coming closer, I can see that with kind of rapport our Ops guy share with the Travel Manager in that firm, I have a bright chances to close this account, and meanwhile also want you guys let know that my intro to this TM guy has been done thru phone, and I usually go and meet him give him updates and keep a track of what’s happening in his firm. This TM Guy turns out to be a ‘chedi friend’ of our ops guy and now the confidence of I getting this account has been doubled. The reason why?? I am the only sales guy in Hyderabad the account (firm) I and our Ops guy were pitching is also in Hyderabad, my Ops guy does not get into sales , all he was doing me was a favor and keeping his promise, his job would be done after introducing me to the TM guy. But he invested more of his time to actually get this company into my kitty. I would have been ever thankful to this guy if things were worked out accordingly.
But they did not……...interval….take a break…………………………...
Welcome back guys!!! Now that I have to keep my Boss in the Loop , about this Firm which we are pitching , I give him a call and explain him , forwarded the relevant email of request for proposal RFP which has been send to the ops guys who has in turn sends to me to take action .
My Boss tone has gone weird and different, he was not happy, I can feel it over the phone, he was restless want to hang the phone down, he wasn’t listening to me. All he say “send me the mail and I will look into it and call you back” very firm voice never ever heard it before. I for a second did not understand him at all. I was not concerned about it anyways my concentration is more on the presentation and the proposal which we has a team have to submit in scheduled meeting with corporate.
Now I suddenly started getting to see different side of my boss, he started to ask me all the in and out of the corporate, asked me to put it on mail, all the stupidest questions a boss can ask which would never been answered, he was so adamant that he didn’t even gave me a chance to make the presentation, he is taking the ownership of the presentation, I thought may be he want to take this responsibility as a head for south. But even my input to the presentation were not counted, I would have asked him why?? But not now, as the date is coming nearer. I started working on the proposal and send him for approval, my proposal got rejected, infect all the proposal are almost same all we have to do change the commercials, I did not asked him why it got rejected. But the proposal what he made is the same what I have send, but only thing he did is deleted my name and put it has “Hyderabad Sales Team”.
I did not understand that, what he want to prove by this, during these days he asked all the south team for a conference call, usually conference calls happens to be once in fortnight , this was something no one expected. Call began with general updates, individual performances, now it came to me. He is not talking about this corporate at all, he is infact asking me what that I am getting in this month, I said I have some in pipeline ,but I want to know why he is not talking about the one I have been following up from 15 months. He started to argue with me on numbers, shouted in front of everyone in the call, warned me , all of a sudden this behavior was unacceptable , I kept my calm and finally asked him why he is not talking about this account which we are working. He says that there was no effort from my side in bringing this account, it was shocking, I was zapped and could not even digest. Call ended, I felt bad, humiliated, and angry, and I cried alone, started figuring out where I went wrong, I cannot see even a single day he behaved like this with me before. He had always appreciated my work whenever he can , sometimes he use to put me pressure , and being in sales I know how to take pressure. I wanted to call him and fight with him why he has done this to me.
Than my mind started to work super fast towards the future. What implication this would bring to me in future and what has made him behave like this to me. Than questions popped from my mind?
Firstly the Ops guy sitting in some location in different state, irrespective of him being in that position he could have informed the news to my boss or anyone in the south or in that case he could have informed it to his boss. But he gave the information stating that he is full filling his promise to me .this has hurted my boss hard, reason is my boss and the ops guys hail from same state, and the ops guy is also close to my boss. EGO OF MY BOSS HURTED.
He than over reacted to the situation and acted weird, he know that if this sale comes on my name , I will be highlighted thru out pan India, and the account is so big that his eyes were on it even before the time I informed him that this is going to come. May be this is my side of story , I could not understand why he was doing all this , every day he shouting on one or the other reason, instead of supporting and encouraging me he started degrading and demotivating me in front of everyone thru calls.
I have decided that his ego has been deeply wounded, and he cannot understand that even if I get that sale he can grow because I grow. But he wants that sale on his name because he as an individual has a target, and that is where I cannot take it. Now I decided that even if I get that sale he will not appreciate me, instead he will keep blaming me that it’s not my effort. I can see my future not that great , I cannot work in this environment anymore, I cannot work here were my efforts are not recognized. I decided to move on and I put down my papers. But before that I want to try my last hope is going to head of sales and request him to interfere in this, but than he was the one who bought my boss into the system and he would obviously have a kind heart for him and he will not prove himself wrong.
Ok Friends Climax Time.
My resignation accepted my boss is one who has to approve with one month of proper notice, but my boss said that he had convinced HR that they will pay all the dues till notice period and informed me that due to the new sales policy no sales guy is supposed to stay for more than a week from the date of resignation and asked me choose a date to leave, I said I can leave the next day as there was some handover work pending, he approved that and now I am writing this email. I got relived from my job yesterday and all the F&F Formalities would be completed ion 45 days from yesterday.
I am sad, feel like cheated, humiliated, degraded, de motivated, and what not. My life is standstill and don’t know what to do. I cannot figure out where I went wrong.
Please help me guys, my humble request … do I want to fight back or move on with a positive note.
From India, Mumbai
14I want to write the whole story before I conclude my problem and thank everyone who reads this mail. I would expect some replies for sure.
I have been working for a reputed travel firm in Hyderabad. Now the story begins with me attending an interview to this well reputed travel corporate. My first round of interview was completed in 5 minutes and the interviewee confirmed me that I have been selected and will have to go thru normal procedure of second round with head of the Sales and 3rd round with HR. don’t ask me how he decided to take me into the system in 5 minutes. I can elaborate that story if someone is interested. Now that I call it a story because this script if made into a film am sure, one would call it the same but than I would say it happened with me and its reality.
I got an offer and I joined with all the hope, good spirits, enthusiasm, force, willingness to work, get myself embedded into the system well. my first impression on this corporate was more like a government “dafter” than a real corporate, my approach to everyone was limited cos of there pessimism which did not helped me understand the process and procedures; however I have to literally prove them to be practical in accepting me. One thing I have to mention is the person (My Boss) who recruited me sits in Bangalore and I am only sales Guy here reporting to him with bunch of idiotic operational staff who are full of egos and double standards.
I some how managed to get close with the Sr.Manager Operations, this guy was having a immense experience in the field and made me understand my responsibilities in the company very clearly, with his support I have started cracking accounts, and then my first six months of honeymoon period was coming to an end but by than I almost established myself in the company. With my well behaving and friendly nature I have made an impression in the peoples mind inside and outside the organization and things were moving fine.
Due to some reason the Sr.Ops Guy has to be transferred to other location, but before he leave... because of the kind of rapport we share , he promised me that he will help me in getting one big account which I was targeting , I thanked him for all the support and he moves on. Meanwhile I was still in the market cracking more accounts, understanding competitions, building relations, gaining more public respect I almost become an entrepreneur myself and driving business as if its my own.. Things were not moving that great but yes there is a medium pace. The factors that also influence the movement were support from the seniors, market volatility, bribe, gifting. Etc. so basically market and support was pathetic to move in fast pace, and we being a reputed firm cannot involve in any unethical things what competition is doing to conquer the market.
Now comes the twist, one fine evening I get a call from this senior Ops guy who is now become GM Ops for the region there, calls me and reminds me his promise , which I used to keep on reminding him whenever I used to call him or lets say follow up with him. He stays that he is keeping his promise by actually getting me this corporate which I was targeting for 15 months, it’s a big one, a big company who requested our travel management services proposal. Finally the dream was coming closer, I can see that with kind of rapport our Ops guy share with the Travel Manager in that firm, I have a bright chances to close this account, and meanwhile also want you guys let know that my intro to this TM guy has been done thru phone, and I usually go and meet him give him updates and keep a track of what’s happening in his firm. This TM Guy turns out to be a ‘chedi friend’ of our ops guy and now the confidence of I getting this account has been doubled. The reason why?? I am the only sales guy in Hyderabad the account (firm) I and our Ops guy were pitching is also in Hyderabad, my Ops guy does not get into sales , all he was doing me was a favor and keeping his promise, his job would be done after introducing me to the TM guy. But he invested more of his time to actually get this company into my kitty. I would have been ever thankful to this guy if things were worked out accordingly.
But they did not……...interval….take a break…………………………...
Welcome back guys!!! Now that I have to keep my Boss in the Loop , about this Firm which we are pitching , I give him a call and explain him , forwarded the relevant email of request for proposal RFP which has been send to the ops guys who has in turn sends to me to take action .
My Boss tone has gone weird and different, he was not happy, I can feel it over the phone, he was restless want to hang the phone down, he wasn’t listening to me. All he say “send me the mail and I will look into it and call you back” very firm voice never ever heard it before. I for a second did not understand him at all. I was not concerned about it anyways my concentration is more on the presentation and the proposal which we has a team have to submit in scheduled meeting with corporate.
Now I suddenly started getting to see different side of my boss, he started to ask me all the in and out of the corporate, asked me to put it on mail, all the stupidest questions a boss can ask which would never been answered, he was so adamant that he didn’t even gave me a chance to make the presentation, he is taking the ownership of the presentation, I thought may be he want to take this responsibility as a head for south. But even my input to the presentation were not counted, I would have asked him why?? But not now, as the date is coming nearer. I started working on the proposal and send him for approval, my proposal got rejected, infect all the proposal are almost same all we have to do change the commercials, I did not asked him why it got rejected. But the proposal what he made is the same what I have send, but only thing he did is deleted my name and put it has “Hyderabad Sales Team”.
I did not understand that, what he want to prove by this, during these days he asked all the south team for a conference call, usually conference calls happens to be once in fortnight , this was something no one expected. Call began with general updates, individual performances, now it came to me. He is not talking about this corporate at all, he is infact asking me what that I am getting in this month, I said I have some in pipeline ,but I want to know why he is not talking about the one I have been following up from 15 months. He started to argue with me on numbers, shouted in front of everyone in the call, warned me , all of a sudden this behavior was unacceptable , I kept my calm and finally asked him why he is not talking about this account which we are working. He says that there was no effort from my side in bringing this account, it was shocking, I was zapped and could not even digest. Call ended, I felt bad, humiliated, and angry, and I cried alone, started figuring out where I went wrong, I cannot see even a single day he behaved like this with me before. He had always appreciated my work whenever he can , sometimes he use to put me pressure , and being in sales I know how to take pressure. I wanted to call him and fight with him why he has done this to me.
Than my mind started to work super fast towards the future. What implication this would bring to me in future and what has made him behave like this to me. Than questions popped from my mind?
Firstly the Ops guy sitting in some location in different state, irrespective of him being in that position he could have informed the news to my boss or anyone in the south or in that case he could have informed it to his boss. But he gave the information stating that he is full filling his promise to me .this has hurted my boss hard, reason is my boss and the ops guys hail from same state, and the ops guy is also close to my boss. EGO OF MY BOSS HURTED.
He than over reacted to the situation and acted weird, he know that if this sale comes on my name , I will be highlighted thru out pan India, and the account is so big that his eyes were on it even before the time I informed him that this is going to come. May be this is my side of story , I could not understand why he was doing all this , every day he shouting on one or the other reason, instead of supporting and encouraging me he started degrading and demotivating me in front of everyone thru calls.
I have decided that his ego has been deeply wounded, and he cannot understand that even if I get that sale he can grow because I grow. But he wants that sale on his name because he as an individual has a target, and that is where I cannot take it. Now I decided that even if I get that sale he will not appreciate me, instead he will keep blaming me that it’s not my effort. I can see my future not that great , I cannot work in this environment anymore, I cannot work here were my efforts are not recognized. I decided to move on and I put down my papers. But before that I want to try my last hope is going to head of sales and request him to interfere in this, but than he was the one who bought my boss into the system and he would obviously have a kind heart for him and he will not prove himself wrong.
Ok Friends Climax Time.
My resignation accepted my boss is one who has to approve with one month of proper notice, but my boss said that he had convinced HR that they will pay all the dues till notice period and informed me that due to the new sales policy no sales guy is supposed to stay for more than a week from the date of resignation and asked me choose a date to leave, I said I can leave the next day as there was some handover work pending, he approved that and now I am writing this email. I got relived from my job yesterday and all the F&F Formalities would be completed ion 45 days from yesterday.
I am sad, feel like cheated, humiliated, degraded, de motivated, and what not. My life is standstill and don’t know what to do. I cannot figure out where I went wrong.
Please help me guys, my humble request … do I want to fight back or move on with a positive note.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Sunshine "Move on with a positive note" and find a better job and company that rightly values your contributions. A new sunshine is waiting for you !!
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Hi Friend,
Am sorry to hear all the nonsense that happened. Every bad experience is like stepping stone for a shiny future. Take it in a positive note, move forward and try targetting for a better job. Sometimes EGO shows shadows of same face in different angles and in such a case this is where everything ends.
Don't let yourself get depressed or de-motivated. Instead gain confidence, there is much to do, use past as a tool, think about your future and plan accordingly.
Good Luck to you
- Babu
From India, Madras
Am sorry to hear all the nonsense that happened. Every bad experience is like stepping stone for a shiny future. Take it in a positive note, move forward and try targetting for a better job. Sometimes EGO shows shadows of same face in different angles and in such a case this is where everything ends.
Don't let yourself get depressed or de-motivated. Instead gain confidence, there is much to do, use past as a tool, think about your future and plan accordingly.
Good Luck to you
- Babu
From India, Madras
Thank you friends
Now I am facing new problem, I am supposed to handover my laptop back to the company,
before that I want somethings to be calrified, I have not signed any document stating that A sales person has to be relived in one week's time after resignation.
and my boss has given me only two days either last firday and monday as options for me to be relieved, so because I dont have much to handover and he promised me that my pay will be considered till the last date of my notice period which is march 10 2011, infact he added that pay will considered from feb 18 till march 18 and all the dues for 48 days will be settled in F&f Settlement, he said he has convinced the Hr guys to do so.
can this happen, whta option I am left with,
can I still serve my notice period,
Cos he is persturing my life that I did not surrended My LAPTOP on the relieving day.as I have download my bank statements, My loan documents , some picture ,He threats me that he will put a case against me as breach of trust.
what I shoud do???
From India, Mumbai
Now I am facing new problem, I am supposed to handover my laptop back to the company,
before that I want somethings to be calrified, I have not signed any document stating that A sales person has to be relived in one week's time after resignation.
and my boss has given me only two days either last firday and monday as options for me to be relieved, so because I dont have much to handover and he promised me that my pay will be considered till the last date of my notice period which is march 10 2011, infact he added that pay will considered from feb 18 till march 18 and all the dues for 48 days will be settled in F&f Settlement, he said he has convinced the Hr guys to do so.
can this happen, whta option I am left with,
can I still serve my notice period,
Cos he is persturing my life that I did not surrended My LAPTOP on the relieving day.as I have download my bank statements, My loan documents , some picture ,He threats me that he will put a case against me as breach of trust.
what I shoud do???
From India, Mumbai
Do one thing, call your company competitor , talk to their Head sales and propose him with this account.
Tell them you can get this account in their company name. But unless your F& F settlement amount is received ask the company not to disclose your name.
If you need to take revange take it through business. Dont let him take this account. You know what the proposal and commercials is so quote less and provide much better service through your competitor company. This way every one will know you once they lose this big prospect client. There is nothing wrong , you call that person and inform you have resigned from this and you are probably joining this and since you are following them for last 15 months you already have made a good relation.
Give a try , but make it sure they lose this client. Ultimately on PAN India that person will be blamed for losing the order.
Best of luck ,
If you need any help can call me any time. I had too faced similer situations but I made my Boss to get terminatted from Job once I resigned from the organization.
Regards
Pulak
+ 91 7303148539
From India, Mumbai
Tell them you can get this account in their company name. But unless your F& F settlement amount is received ask the company not to disclose your name.
If you need to take revange take it through business. Dont let him take this account. You know what the proposal and commercials is so quote less and provide much better service through your competitor company. This way every one will know you once they lose this big prospect client. There is nothing wrong , you call that person and inform you have resigned from this and you are probably joining this and since you are following them for last 15 months you already have made a good relation.
Give a try , but make it sure they lose this client. Ultimately on PAN India that person will be blamed for losing the order.
Best of luck ,
If you need any help can call me any time. I had too faced similer situations but I made my Boss to get terminatted from Job once I resigned from the organization.
Regards
Pulak
+ 91 7303148539
From India, Mumbai
Greeting,
You have a proven track with numbers and client , stay focussed in looking for a new role. Firms are always more than keen to hire an high achieving talent in sales and marketing . You score a brownie, there. Its always better to move away from a firm where transparency is nil and leadership corrupted .
Have your dues been released ?
Count yourself lucky that you have only spent 15 months of your career and have the rest of the employment to save. Wish you all the best !
From India, Mumbai
You have a proven track with numbers and client , stay focussed in looking for a new role. Firms are always more than keen to hire an high achieving talent in sales and marketing . You score a brownie, there. Its always better to move away from a firm where transparency is nil and leadership corrupted .
Have your dues been released ?
Count yourself lucky that you have only spent 15 months of your career and have the rest of the employment to save. Wish you all the best !
From India, Mumbai
It would be advisable to speak to a good recruitment consultant,also speak to your HR head and ask him for an exit interview form
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
Dear Sunshine
I Can only suggest you to move on with a positive note. Appreciate you boss for what all good things he done for you and carry those along with you. Professional world is small. People will come accross in future.Things which will help you to grow youself is only positive thinking and a good relation with others.
thanks
Manish
From United States, Buffalo
I Can only suggest you to move on with a positive note. Appreciate you boss for what all good things he done for you and carry those along with you. Professional world is small. People will come accross in future.Things which will help you to grow youself is only positive thinking and a good relation with others.
thanks
Manish
From United States, Buffalo
Dear Friend,
Fighting with the company is like fighting with the wall. My intial suggestion is thibk that out of frustration you have kicked off the company. Take a break for a week atleast . I advice return all the assets and whatever is belonging to the company. Thereon, look out for a fresh job. Please write a very senti and true letter to your boss who has done this mess and quote for positive responce for your antecendent from the next employer.
I know you will be between the job. But now the truth is , you need money and peace . First focus on that.
Best Regards
Rupesh
From India, Pune
Fighting with the company is like fighting with the wall. My intial suggestion is thibk that out of frustration you have kicked off the company. Take a break for a week atleast . I advice return all the assets and whatever is belonging to the company. Thereon, look out for a fresh job. Please write a very senti and true letter to your boss who has done this mess and quote for positive responce for your antecendent from the next employer.
I know you will be between the job. But now the truth is , you need money and peace . First focus on that.
Best Regards
Rupesh
From India, Pune
you have skills, go for another job, dont yourself in any fight with your boss, as might be you will meet him after some year,, as professional world is really small, so be honest work with same dedication, and never overwork :) sometime seniors takes it like a threat to their positions( its a personal experience)
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
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