Ryan, You are right about Bachchan's character. It would indeed be quite tough to work under a boss like that.
I had commented on Tabu's remarks because of what Dale Carnegie said about the right occupation and the right spouse being the two most important things in one's life.
Before we round off the discussion, let us look at some of the comments of what Morgan and Banks have to say in their wonderful book " Achieving your dream career"::-
"If you are not passionate about what you are doing, do something else"
"Our experience has shown that money is not a sign but a consequence of success. If you are happy with what you are doing, you are bound to do it well and the rewards will flow. It is a virtuous circle."
"Talking in the context of Olyympic champions, they said that they must have a deep love for what they are doing and the awards will follow due to passion and performance"
"The real test comes on the day when you realise that you can afford not to jump out of bed and head off to work. But you happily do it anyway, because you realise that the life and the work you love have nothing to do with a living"
It takes time, experience and resources to make one's life's passion one's life's work.
There are several such quotes and the book is full of examples of case studies where people have been placed in professions that are completely different from what they were doing- doctor to sportswriter for instance.
I wonder when the Indian career consultants will ever talk like this. Except for Mr Kapoor who I mentioned earlier, all this seems greek to them.
From India, New Delhi
8I had commented on Tabu's remarks because of what Dale Carnegie said about the right occupation and the right spouse being the two most important things in one's life.
Before we round off the discussion, let us look at some of the comments of what Morgan and Banks have to say in their wonderful book " Achieving your dream career"::-
"If you are not passionate about what you are doing, do something else"
"Our experience has shown that money is not a sign but a consequence of success. If you are happy with what you are doing, you are bound to do it well and the rewards will flow. It is a virtuous circle."
"Talking in the context of Olyympic champions, they said that they must have a deep love for what they are doing and the awards will follow due to passion and performance"
"The real test comes on the day when you realise that you can afford not to jump out of bed and head off to work. But you happily do it anyway, because you realise that the life and the work you love have nothing to do with a living"
It takes time, experience and resources to make one's life's passion one's life's work.
There are several such quotes and the book is full of examples of case studies where people have been placed in professions that are completely different from what they were doing- doctor to sportswriter for instance.
I wonder when the Indian career consultants will ever talk like this. Except for Mr Kapoor who I mentioned earlier, all this seems greek to them.
From India, New Delhi
I was in Bombay about a week back for 3-4 days. I got in touch with Ryan but it was not possible to meet because of other commitments. While in Bombay, I mentioned our chat to my sister-in-law- She said that the director of Cheeni Kum had himself said that the movie was a labor of love and even if one person watched and appreciated it, he would consider it worth the effort.
I also read retail King(Pantaloon). Kishore Biyani’s book “It happened in India” . Normally one associates the word passion with people like Bill Gates, Thomas Edison or Henri Ford who were passionate for and tried to achieve excellence in a particular product or area. I always used to wonder what possible passion could a trader have but the word passion has appeared at four five different places in the book. I was also surprised to read what Biyani had to say on HR “ I first look at a person and than think of a job for him”. It reminded me of Henri Ford’s “ I hire a man, not his history”. It is a refreshing change that blindly judging people by degrees.
My article “Soul of a profession” also got published in the June issue of the HR magazine “Management Compass” where the example of actor Balraj Sahni mentioned earlier on this post is given:-
http://wplay.wordpress.com/2007/07/0...-a-profession/
From India, New Delhi
I also read retail King(Pantaloon). Kishore Biyani’s book “It happened in India” . Normally one associates the word passion with people like Bill Gates, Thomas Edison or Henri Ford who were passionate for and tried to achieve excellence in a particular product or area. I always used to wonder what possible passion could a trader have but the word passion has appeared at four five different places in the book. I was also surprised to read what Biyani had to say on HR “ I first look at a person and than think of a job for him”. It reminded me of Henri Ford’s “ I hire a man, not his history”. It is a refreshing change that blindly judging people by degrees.
My article “Soul of a profession” also got published in the June issue of the HR magazine “Management Compass” where the example of actor Balraj Sahni mentioned earlier on this post is given:-
http://wplay.wordpress.com/2007/07/0...-a-profession/
From India, New Delhi
Hi Hiren,
Somehow I have missed out this post quiet some time. I think because it was posted in Forum members. After 10 years of gap , I have seen the movies you have mentioned, i.e Ta Ra Rum Pum, & Cheeni Kum.(And only those two movies are last) In fact both the films are providing some messages about the management principles. As mentioned the dialagues are according to the HRM Principles. Even another dialogue by Tabu, when the cook is terminated by Bachan, she says to Bachan, when the appreciation comes, because of your good food, it is for you, and criticism comes that also has to you only and not to the person who prepared the food. All the top management should keep it in its mind before blaming their subordinates for the mistakes.
I feel I can give more feedback on this. I will analyse the HRM principles and concepts in reference to the movie ta ra rum pum also and post it here.
Regards,
Umesh.S.
From India, Bangalore
Somehow I have missed out this post quiet some time. I think because it was posted in Forum members. After 10 years of gap , I have seen the movies you have mentioned, i.e Ta Ra Rum Pum, & Cheeni Kum.(And only those two movies are last) In fact both the films are providing some messages about the management principles. As mentioned the dialagues are according to the HRM Principles. Even another dialogue by Tabu, when the cook is terminated by Bachan, she says to Bachan, when the appreciation comes, because of your good food, it is for you, and criticism comes that also has to you only and not to the person who prepared the food. All the top management should keep it in its mind before blaming their subordinates for the mistakes.
I feel I can give more feedback on this. I will analyse the HRM principles and concepts in reference to the movie ta ra rum pum also and post it here.
Regards,
Umesh.S.
From India, Bangalore
Fine value additions you have made, Umesh.S. In reality, HR is everywhere because people are everywhere and one cannot escape man management. What you have said also reminded me of something else- I read some article called "Management lessons from Big B"in Hindustan Times Mint magazine in Bombay. That article was all about how there was an over emphasis on youth in management and how people who had just become MBAs were asked to manage people where they could barely manage themselves. The article said that even 29 was considered to be old and how ridiculous that was. Citing Mr Bachchan, the article said that ideal blend should be youth and experience. God alone knows where the blind emphasis of youth is going to take us. Today in the Delhi times, there was a whole article on how young people had turned to robbing because their talents did not meet their aspirations and there seems to be a blind rush for brands which seem to give them an exalted identity.
This is what happens when there are no senior managers who can be good mentors. It can prove to be a one way street to hell.
From India, New Delhi
This is what happens when there are no senior managers who can be good mentors. It can prove to be a one way street to hell.
From India, New Delhi
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