To , All Seniors in HR !!!
Thanks for your pragmatic posts especially Mr. Umang & Chum.
The objective behind this post is sincere desire to help these candidates.
The question stil reamin unanwered : Can HR community help such candidates & more importantly how?
Regards,
Amit
From India, Bangalore
1Thanks for your pragmatic posts especially Mr. Umang & Chum.
The objective behind this post is sincere desire to help these candidates.
The question stil reamin unanwered : Can HR community help such candidates & more importantly how?
Regards,
Amit
From India, Bangalore
I think most of the generalist profiles are filled up through campus recruitments in large co/MNCs and the rest are replacement positions which require 3+ years of experience.
Even small organizations provide great opportunity and would definately prefer freshers. In fact small organization would give you good opportunity to learn and implement. As there are no systems in place you will be the sole person responsible for developing system and implementing them, as compared to an MNC where you just become the custodian of the processes in place.
You should not constrain yourself to location or industry. Sometimes you might get good opportunity in a small cities as well. In fact most of the big manufacturing setups are in small towns and cities. You cannot expect to be in one of the top MNC at the beginning of your career unless you have passed out from India's top B - Schools.
Once you gain experience and expertise no - one's going to ask you which institute you've come from. Then you are hired on the basis of your expertise.
All The Best!!!!!!!!!
Regards,
Pragya
From India, Pune
Even small organizations provide great opportunity and would definately prefer freshers. In fact small organization would give you good opportunity to learn and implement. As there are no systems in place you will be the sole person responsible for developing system and implementing them, as compared to an MNC where you just become the custodian of the processes in place.
You should not constrain yourself to location or industry. Sometimes you might get good opportunity in a small cities as well. In fact most of the big manufacturing setups are in small towns and cities. You cannot expect to be in one of the top MNC at the beginning of your career unless you have passed out from India's top B - Schools.
Once you gain experience and expertise no - one's going to ask you which institute you've come from. Then you are hired on the basis of your expertise.
All The Best!!!!!!!!!
Regards,
Pragya
From India, Pune
Hi,
A very good an comprehensive reply by uwadhwa. I really appreciate your help towards freshers/ people in doubt.
Indeed, I truly support your advice.
I, in my own career, followed a similar path.
Though, I would like to add that word of mouth is a possibility when you work in the same organisation or have friends/people you know, working in that orgn.
If you are an outsider, and that too a complete outsider i.e. no links in the organisation, a CONSULTANT can help you.
You may talk/call/mail consultants and get to know about job openings as well as the kind of salary structure being offered.
Also, as mentioned already, job portals are a good means of knowing a lot about the same.
Newspapers also help, however, if you have links or can make links, you may get to know about the best of jobs in the top notch organisations.
ALL THE BEST!
REgards,
Avani Bhatnagar.
Training Manager.
From India, Delhi
A very good an comprehensive reply by uwadhwa. I really appreciate your help towards freshers/ people in doubt.
Indeed, I truly support your advice.
I, in my own career, followed a similar path.
Though, I would like to add that word of mouth is a possibility when you work in the same organisation or have friends/people you know, working in that orgn.
If you are an outsider, and that too a complete outsider i.e. no links in the organisation, a CONSULTANT can help you.
You may talk/call/mail consultants and get to know about job openings as well as the kind of salary structure being offered.
Also, as mentioned already, job portals are a good means of knowing a lot about the same.
Newspapers also help, however, if you have links or can make links, you may get to know about the best of jobs in the top notch organisations.
ALL THE BEST!
REgards,
Avani Bhatnagar.
Training Manager.
From India, Delhi
Dear All,
I have answered all the queries in so detail because I am the one like Amit.
I passed out in August 2008 and have started working in July 2009. Believe me, its my first job and I am designated as an HR Manager. Though such long gap is because of my marriage happening in-between the period, my actual job-search was not more than 1.5 months.
Ours is a new organization, an LPO. Before this, I hadn't ever heard the term. But my HR degree and the achievements during the course helped me come this far. I have formulated the HR policies and the procedures and all the HR Forms for the Company. I am the sole responsible for all the Recruitments, Trainings, Performance Appraisals, etc. It feels soo good!!
I haven't got it all by just blaming recession and those who reach the top through references. I have strived hard to get this. I have had to reject the job offers of 'Relationship Manager' in a Ltd. Company that offered me more money, just to work in a core HR field. I am paid less (not too less for a fresher) but my job-satisfaction is at par. I have devoted my time in the search of 'right job' for me.
Employment Newspapers or the job-portals don't guarantee you to get a job in one day. You have to keep looking and keep the patience. Better than sitting idle, one may work for a Consultancy, but then coming to the Corporate world will only get tougher!!
I would also like to talk on the difference between Personnel and HR work. While Personnel Department works administrative tasks in a traditional way, HR functions are working in a modern style, like integrating HRIS in the system.
I hope this helps.
And please note that my name is Mrs. Umang Wadhwa Osahan.
Thank you!
From India, Hyderabad
I have answered all the queries in so detail because I am the one like Amit.
I passed out in August 2008 and have started working in July 2009. Believe me, its my first job and I am designated as an HR Manager. Though such long gap is because of my marriage happening in-between the period, my actual job-search was not more than 1.5 months.
Ours is a new organization, an LPO. Before this, I hadn't ever heard the term. But my HR degree and the achievements during the course helped me come this far. I have formulated the HR policies and the procedures and all the HR Forms for the Company. I am the sole responsible for all the Recruitments, Trainings, Performance Appraisals, etc. It feels soo good!!
I haven't got it all by just blaming recession and those who reach the top through references. I have strived hard to get this. I have had to reject the job offers of 'Relationship Manager' in a Ltd. Company that offered me more money, just to work in a core HR field. I am paid less (not too less for a fresher) but my job-satisfaction is at par. I have devoted my time in the search of 'right job' for me.
Employment Newspapers or the job-portals don't guarantee you to get a job in one day. You have to keep looking and keep the patience. Better than sitting idle, one may work for a Consultancy, but then coming to the Corporate world will only get tougher!!
I would also like to talk on the difference between Personnel and HR work. While Personnel Department works administrative tasks in a traditional way, HR functions are working in a modern style, like integrating HRIS in the system.
I hope this helps.
And please note that my name is Mrs. Umang Wadhwa Osahan.
Thank you!
From India, Hyderabad
I agree with what Mr. Wadhawa said.
I started my career in HR with a consultancy , worked there for 3 months only & got an apportunity of HR generalist job. I accepted that job though they were offering very less salary as that was an initial stage of my career. I hope future will show me good results.
From India, Pune
I started my career in HR with a consultancy , worked there for 3 months only & got an apportunity of HR generalist job. I accepted that job though they were offering very less salary as that was an initial stage of my career. I hope future will show me good results.
From India, Pune
Thanks for this good advice Mrs. Umang Osahan. I really needed that could u please tell me what topic should i choose for project in hr and please tell me the format of synopses. regards richa
From India, Lucknow
From India, Lucknow
Hey!
This thread has been really useful to me..i am in a similar situation like most ppl here..i just finished my MBA in 2009..since there were no opportunities avalaible i took up a job in a consultancy but after a couple of months i started feeling restless with the profile and the work culture of that place!..so i quit!
And now ive joined a start up company where im the only HR!!.. we are into medical tourism..we are looking at expanding in the next few months..so rite now my role is limited to recruitment, induction,preparation of HR policies and proformas of all the the documents required like offer letter, confirmation letter, reimbursement voucher, salary slips, etc.
Since i don really have prior experience, i don know wat else i can do out here to improve the systems. I am working on preparing a flow chart of the entire process that goes on in the company with the CEO. i want to do more but don wat!!!
Please Help!
Jamila Patel
From India, Mumbai
This thread has been really useful to me..i am in a similar situation like most ppl here..i just finished my MBA in 2009..since there were no opportunities avalaible i took up a job in a consultancy but after a couple of months i started feeling restless with the profile and the work culture of that place!..so i quit!
And now ive joined a start up company where im the only HR!!.. we are into medical tourism..we are looking at expanding in the next few months..so rite now my role is limited to recruitment, induction,preparation of HR policies and proformas of all the the documents required like offer letter, confirmation letter, reimbursement voucher, salary slips, etc.
Since i don really have prior experience, i don know wat else i can do out here to improve the systems. I am working on preparing a flow chart of the entire process that goes on in the company with the CEO. i want to do more but don wat!!!
Please Help!
Jamila Patel
From India, Mumbai
Hi Ms. Umang and Avani,
I have a small problem out here. I have passed out my MBA in 2009 with a dual specialization in HR and Marketing. Due to lack of any good opportunity in HR I had accepted a job offer in a start up as marketing & business development officer. I am good at marketing but my heart lies with HR. Though life in Marketing is challenging with lot of authority and one can go very creative but still i wanna shift to HR. What will an HR recruiter get an impression from my background? And what are my possibilities of getting into HR generalist position?
Please advise
From India, Bangalore
I have a small problem out here. I have passed out my MBA in 2009 with a dual specialization in HR and Marketing. Due to lack of any good opportunity in HR I had accepted a job offer in a start up as marketing & business development officer. I am good at marketing but my heart lies with HR. Though life in Marketing is challenging with lot of authority and one can go very creative but still i wanna shift to HR. What will an HR recruiter get an impression from my background? And what are my possibilities of getting into HR generalist position?
Please advise
From India, Bangalore
Very well said Mrs. Umay Wadhwa. Really i agree with you becoz what i think any kind of work if done properly then it's results is automatically speaks by itself i.e. SUCCESS. No matter work is big or small but the way of doing the work it matters.
So in the end i would like to say only this PAY FULL ATTENTION ON YOUR WORK NOT ON OUTCOME.GIVE FULL EXTENT OF YOUR DEDICATION TO YOUR WORK THEN DEFINATELY RESULTS COMES AS PER YOUR EXPECTATION.
WITH REGARDS
SUPRIYA SHARMA
HR EXECUTIVE
From India, Dehra Dun
So in the end i would like to say only this PAY FULL ATTENTION ON YOUR WORK NOT ON OUTCOME.GIVE FULL EXTENT OF YOUR DEDICATION TO YOUR WORK THEN DEFINATELY RESULTS COMES AS PER YOUR EXPECTATION.
WITH REGARDS
SUPRIYA SHARMA
HR EXECUTIVE
From India, Dehra Dun
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