Dear Savvio,
Others have given you good views on why or why not MBA's etc. Hence, let me raise a few questions and make general appeal to all members.
May we know what prompted you to raise this question? Are you a frustrated MBA like one of the respondents or are you considering doing an MBA?
I take this opportunity to say that we should give a scenario, while asking a question. Then we will get a precise answer. For example, if the question was "Isan MBA required to start an enterprise and succeed?" the answer would be not necessarily as examples quoted in the various responses indicate. However if the question was "Is an MBA required to get into managerial positions in MNCs?", then the answer would be may be depending upon the network one has created and upon the qualification of the boss one will be working for. For example, if the boss himself/herself has no MBA, then he/she may prefer one without an MBA. I know of cases, where the boss was a member of IEE (Institute of Eelctrical Engineers, UK) and he appointed one who was also a member and who did not know much about semiconductors. Similarly, Cambridge University qualified bosses prefer candidates from that university.
From United Kingdom
1621Others have given you good views on why or why not MBA's etc. Hence, let me raise a few questions and make general appeal to all members.
May we know what prompted you to raise this question? Are you a frustrated MBA like one of the respondents or are you considering doing an MBA?
I take this opportunity to say that we should give a scenario, while asking a question. Then we will get a precise answer. For example, if the question was "Isan MBA required to start an enterprise and succeed?" the answer would be not necessarily as examples quoted in the various responses indicate. However if the question was "Is an MBA required to get into managerial positions in MNCs?", then the answer would be may be depending upon the network one has created and upon the qualification of the boss one will be working for. For example, if the boss himself/herself has no MBA, then he/she may prefer one without an MBA. I know of cases, where the boss was a member of IEE (Institute of Eelctrical Engineers, UK) and he appointed one who was also a member and who did not know much about semiconductors. Similarly, Cambridge University qualified bosses prefer candidates from that university.
From United Kingdom
Hi Dear,
MBA is not manadatory for becoming Good Manager.
you need to have Management skills, analytical mind, people oriented mindset.
MBA just nurures your present skills and adds some new skills.
It is kind of scietific training for aspiring managers.
From India, Mumbai
MBA is not manadatory for becoming Good Manager.
you need to have Management skills, analytical mind, people oriented mindset.
MBA just nurures your present skills and adds some new skills.
It is kind of scietific training for aspiring managers.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Savvio,
I fully agree with every one that MBA is not necessary to become a Good Manager, experience counts. Savvio I would like to ask you a question? when you go to buy something and you get some thing free with it , will you not be happy? Most of us feel nice about such offers.
Today there are lacs of MBA graduate's, and for any opening in an organization there are end number of people applying for the said post. The supply exceeds the demand, so the organization can choose from the lot. The selector will see the experience, qualification and salary. When for the same money they are getting a qualified person then why not hire him or her.
Savvio today it is the market demand, so why not follow the wind. Education does help you to think in a wider perspective. Try to drive your frustration toward taking the additional qualification, you will feel nice and to top it will be able to full fill your wish of climbing the corporate ladder faster. Please remember there is no age or gender to take up education.
All the best
Regards
Anita
From India, Mumbai
I fully agree with every one that MBA is not necessary to become a Good Manager, experience counts. Savvio I would like to ask you a question? when you go to buy something and you get some thing free with it , will you not be happy? Most of us feel nice about such offers.
Today there are lacs of MBA graduate's, and for any opening in an organization there are end number of people applying for the said post. The supply exceeds the demand, so the organization can choose from the lot. The selector will see the experience, qualification and salary. When for the same money they are getting a qualified person then why not hire him or her.
Savvio today it is the market demand, so why not follow the wind. Education does help you to think in a wider perspective. Try to drive your frustration toward taking the additional qualification, you will feel nice and to top it will be able to full fill your wish of climbing the corporate ladder faster. Please remember there is no age or gender to take up education.
All the best
Regards
Anita
From India, Mumbai
Dear Savvio,
The MBA is an eye - opener to the world of business. However, as has already been said by some seniors, what is important to the survivor of most businesses is the skills, knowledge, experience, hard work and positive attitude to work. The MBA comes in when we talk about the knowledge of employees but that constitutes about 15% of the factors that make businesses effective while attitude takes about 75%. The rest constitute only 10%. In a presentation I made at a workshop for front line staff of a service companyon the topic ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING participant really agreed that it does not matter whether a manager holds MBA or not, the Manager's attitude is the most important factor. This goes to explain why some non MBA Holders serving in the capacity of Managers were successful.
From Ghana
The MBA is an eye - opener to the world of business. However, as has already been said by some seniors, what is important to the survivor of most businesses is the skills, knowledge, experience, hard work and positive attitude to work. The MBA comes in when we talk about the knowledge of employees but that constitutes about 15% of the factors that make businesses effective while attitude takes about 75%. The rest constitute only 10%. In a presentation I made at a workshop for front line staff of a service companyon the topic ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING participant really agreed that it does not matter whether a manager holds MBA or not, the Manager's attitude is the most important factor. This goes to explain why some non MBA Holders serving in the capacity of Managers were successful.
From Ghana
Dear Keshav,
Yes what you say is absolutely true, but remember, mostly this people are the owner of this company or may be the relative of the proprietor. Where their birth destined their designation.
In exceptional cases we may have few people like Dhirubhai Ambani, but when we are talking about majority of the population, then it is must for us to change by acquiring further education or training in order to remain a head in the race today.
This is what I have happening in the corporates.
Regards
Anita
From India, Mumbai
Yes what you say is absolutely true, but remember, mostly this people are the owner of this company or may be the relative of the proprietor. Where their birth destined their designation.
In exceptional cases we may have few people like Dhirubhai Ambani, but when we are talking about majority of the population, then it is must for us to change by acquiring further education or training in order to remain a head in the race today.
This is what I have happening in the corporates.
Regards
Anita
From India, Mumbai
I endorse and agree with Syboriba. It is the fact POSITIVE ATTITUDE make huge difference besides skills, knowledge, experience and hard work. At times HARDWORK will outperform TALENT if talent is not utilized in the right place, in the right time and in the right manner.
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Dear Anita ji,
I fully agree with you, Madam. I realized that my answer to queriest on - "do only MBA qualified become successful ...... ?" is not appropriate. The link to article on 60% of Top CEO....... is also out of context.
My answer to queriest is - not only MBA qualified become successful as Managers. I have seen many non MBAs even non graduates successful as Managers. One should have positive attitude, business attitude, learning attitude and wining attitude to became successful. If there is no 2D i.e. Desire and Dedication, one can not be successful person in any field.
From India, Mumbai
I fully agree with you, Madam. I realized that my answer to queriest on - "do only MBA qualified become successful ...... ?" is not appropriate. The link to article on 60% of Top CEO....... is also out of context.
My answer to queriest is - not only MBA qualified become successful as Managers. I have seen many non MBAs even non graduates successful as Managers. One should have positive attitude, business attitude, learning attitude and wining attitude to became successful. If there is no 2D i.e. Desire and Dedication, one can not be successful person in any field.
From India, Mumbai
I would rather say basic / fundamental education is sufficient to become a successful person. I know one of the top most person held Vice President (HR), who was an Arts Graduate. He was a very successful HR person and the whole group companies' HR persons used to get any policy ratified by him. Even Chairman of the company used to ask those HR chaps, whether they had discussed about this policy and its ramifications in details with the VP.
We talk about many things and half a dozen degrees running behind our names. However, the attitute, humane approach, the indepth knowledge and command over his job is what will take someone up and not MBA degree or doctorate degree.
In Today's scenario, an MBA degree is available in street corner. I get a lot of mail that by payment of some amount, they offer "verifiable degree". And more so, these MBA holders emerging from many schools / colleges, can't even converse in English, leave alone their out of box thinking capability and business approach in handling things. May be some extra-ordinary students get placed in good companies. Why we give importance to MBAs. How many SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE you want to see who are just ITI / Diploma holders (who are branch managers also). Come to my company, I will show you.
How many Engineering Students (B.E. / BTech) have conceptual clarity today? A candidate of B.E - Electrical Engineering who scored 93% in his final exam could not say what is Ohm's Law , which is very fundamental in Electrical Engineering. Another fellow, a Diploma Engineer could not solve (A+B)2 formula. I do not know how they passed out. This is what the education system today.
And we talk about preference of MBA / Engineering people to fill up our vacancies, right?
V. Balaji
From India, Madras
We talk about many things and half a dozen degrees running behind our names. However, the attitute, humane approach, the indepth knowledge and command over his job is what will take someone up and not MBA degree or doctorate degree.
In Today's scenario, an MBA degree is available in street corner. I get a lot of mail that by payment of some amount, they offer "verifiable degree". And more so, these MBA holders emerging from many schools / colleges, can't even converse in English, leave alone their out of box thinking capability and business approach in handling things. May be some extra-ordinary students get placed in good companies. Why we give importance to MBAs. How many SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE you want to see who are just ITI / Diploma holders (who are branch managers also). Come to my company, I will show you.
How many Engineering Students (B.E. / BTech) have conceptual clarity today? A candidate of B.E - Electrical Engineering who scored 93% in his final exam could not say what is Ohm's Law , which is very fundamental in Electrical Engineering. Another fellow, a Diploma Engineer could not solve (A+B)2 formula. I do not know how they passed out. This is what the education system today.
And we talk about preference of MBA / Engineering people to fill up our vacancies, right?
V. Balaji
From India, Madras
Dear Keshav,
My earlier reply was addressed to the question raised by Savvio, it seems he lost a Promotion against a person having a MBA qualified. If his company demands that, then he should try to get the additional qualification to climb the ladder.
Please read my reply very carefully, I have never said additional qualification is necessary for holding high post it depends on the organization you are working in. Each company have different policy, some give importance to experience and qualification while others give only importance to experience. So as per the situation we have to take a decision.
Mr. Balaji don't you think you have made a very generalized statement. As per what you have stated all the people who have taken additional qualification are good for nothing. Sir I would like to tell you there are good and bad students in all class so on the basis of that you can't generalize and say it is not good to take additional qualification. I do agree there are many institutes who sell degree, but there are equal number of institutes who are well known world wide. And people who clear from this institute's are holding high post across the world.
Even if this people don't get great break, but additional qualification help you to think in a wider perspective. No education done well goes waste. Experience and qualification helps you to perform better.
So don't demotivate people from acquiring additional qualification, I genuine feel you are smart so did not require additional qualification, but all may not have your caliber.
Regards
Anita
From India, Mumbai
My earlier reply was addressed to the question raised by Savvio, it seems he lost a Promotion against a person having a MBA qualified. If his company demands that, then he should try to get the additional qualification to climb the ladder.
Please read my reply very carefully, I have never said additional qualification is necessary for holding high post it depends on the organization you are working in. Each company have different policy, some give importance to experience and qualification while others give only importance to experience. So as per the situation we have to take a decision.
Mr. Balaji don't you think you have made a very generalized statement. As per what you have stated all the people who have taken additional qualification are good for nothing. Sir I would like to tell you there are good and bad students in all class so on the basis of that you can't generalize and say it is not good to take additional qualification. I do agree there are many institutes who sell degree, but there are equal number of institutes who are well known world wide. And people who clear from this institute's are holding high post across the world.
Even if this people don't get great break, but additional qualification help you to think in a wider perspective. No education done well goes waste. Experience and qualification helps you to perform better.
So don't demotivate people from acquiring additional qualification, I genuine feel you are smart so did not require additional qualification, but all may not have your caliber.
Regards
Anita
From India, Mumbai
Dear Anita,
If you closely look at the question and the answers given by various people here, one thing you would see the answers are in common that, MBA degree is not required to become a successful person. And I reiterated the same in my point.
I never discourage anyone acquiring any additional degree or diploma for that matter. If they use this additional degree for advacement in their career, let them. But to answer this the fundamental question, whether MBA is a pre-requisite, my answer is straight 'NO".
I also went ahead in bringing to our attention about today's scenario, how these so called MBA degree holders perform in the interview. What I coveyed is true one has to accept this. Leave the exceptional students, these students will always do whether they have this degree or otherwise.
V. Balaji
From India, Madras
If you closely look at the question and the answers given by various people here, one thing you would see the answers are in common that, MBA degree is not required to become a successful person. And I reiterated the same in my point.
I never discourage anyone acquiring any additional degree or diploma for that matter. If they use this additional degree for advacement in their career, let them. But to answer this the fundamental question, whether MBA is a pre-requisite, my answer is straight 'NO".
I also went ahead in bringing to our attention about today's scenario, how these so called MBA degree holders perform in the interview. What I coveyed is true one has to accept this. Leave the exceptional students, these students will always do whether they have this degree or otherwise.
V. Balaji
From India, Madras
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