Dear Mr. Ravi,
Agreed that there r 2 sides to a coin and we should'nt consider only one person's point of view. Maybe the employee is at falut and the boss is right as u suggested.
But u should read all the other posts/comments made by this "SMART ALEC - BADLOOSER" (or so he considers himself), then u will understand why everybody reacted in such a manner. For every queries asked by members he only has useless comments to give. There are other members who give comments which are not always favouring the person who poses those queries, b'coz there are 2 facets to every thing. But nobody gives such unwarrated, outrageous comments. May be now u will feel that since BADLOOSER is being frank we should emphatize with him and understand his view point.
From India, Bharuch
16Agreed that there r 2 sides to a coin and we should'nt consider only one person's point of view. Maybe the employee is at falut and the boss is right as u suggested.
But u should read all the other posts/comments made by this "SMART ALEC - BADLOOSER" (or so he considers himself), then u will understand why everybody reacted in such a manner. For every queries asked by members he only has useless comments to give. There are other members who give comments which are not always favouring the person who poses those queries, b'coz there are 2 facets to every thing. But nobody gives such unwarrated, outrageous comments. May be now u will feel that since BADLOOSER is being frank we should emphatize with him and understand his view point.
From India, Bharuch
Dear Deepthi,
i'm also facing a similar problem with my current boss. i have tried to do most of the things that you've suggested eg. proactively coming up with work etc. but no, i've not had a one-on-one discussion with her(because i fear for my job in these uncertain times). the main problem i feel is poor communication between us because she's in Mumbai and i'm in Delhi.
while she does appreciate me, it's usually for unimportant things. even though i've explicitly asked her to involve me in things, she doesn't do it.
sometimes i wonder if she's insecure because she isn't an MBA, hasn't worked with MNCs as opposed to me, who has even worked abroad. but i'll never move to mumbai and also i think i still need guidance from her as she is definitely far more experienced than me. she does keep me in the loop of what she's doing but doesn't involve me, doesn't ask my opinions, we don't do any brainstorming etc. and whatever information she does share with me doesn't help me much in my work either.
she's not well versed with all aspects of HR(we're HR professionals) and is outsourcing everything even though i've shared her my interest in doing it internally. i just feel that i'm learning nothing at all.
of late we did meet up due to conferences etc and i thought we did bond but all is back to square one now that i'm back.
she complains of being overworked all the time but still wants to do it all herself and not delegate anything to me.
she reports to the CEO and i dont' see any point taking it up with him as he thinks that she's an 'Angel'!!
please advise how i can overcome the physical distance and create a good and beneficial relationship with my boss so she can delegate work and i can learn.
From India, Delhi
i'm also facing a similar problem with my current boss. i have tried to do most of the things that you've suggested eg. proactively coming up with work etc. but no, i've not had a one-on-one discussion with her(because i fear for my job in these uncertain times). the main problem i feel is poor communication between us because she's in Mumbai and i'm in Delhi.
while she does appreciate me, it's usually for unimportant things. even though i've explicitly asked her to involve me in things, she doesn't do it.
sometimes i wonder if she's insecure because she isn't an MBA, hasn't worked with MNCs as opposed to me, who has even worked abroad. but i'll never move to mumbai and also i think i still need guidance from her as she is definitely far more experienced than me. she does keep me in the loop of what she's doing but doesn't involve me, doesn't ask my opinions, we don't do any brainstorming etc. and whatever information she does share with me doesn't help me much in my work either.
she's not well versed with all aspects of HR(we're HR professionals) and is outsourcing everything even though i've shared her my interest in doing it internally. i just feel that i'm learning nothing at all.
of late we did meet up due to conferences etc and i thought we did bond but all is back to square one now that i'm back.
she complains of being overworked all the time but still wants to do it all herself and not delegate anything to me.
she reports to the CEO and i dont' see any point taking it up with him as he thinks that she's an 'Angel'!!
please advise how i can overcome the physical distance and create a good and beneficial relationship with my boss so she can delegate work and i can learn.
From India, Delhi
I support face-to-face talk with your boss. Just be open and make him aware that you can see what is happening around. Try to be obedient and do what is required of you and at the same time be assertive.:idea:
Dear Arnold,
Here again u are underestimating your boss, you think you are more smart and knowledgable than her but in HR there are many people working without professional qualification and enjoying in their AC rooms.
This is sad, even i pity u dear..
Do ur best. hope all organisations follow strict practice while recruiting and throw all non MBA HRs from their organisations. May be the non MBA HR s in this forum may get angry at me BUT I DONT CARE :-x
From India, Pune
Here again u are underestimating your boss, you think you are more smart and knowledgable than her but in HR there are many people working without professional qualification and enjoying in their AC rooms.
This is sad, even i pity u dear..
Do ur best. hope all organisations follow strict practice while recruiting and throw all non MBA HRs from their organisations. May be the non MBA HR s in this forum may get angry at me BUT I DONT CARE :-x
From India, Pune
Dear Arnold,
Your Problem Is Lack Of Experience And Inovative Skills To Nevigate The Corporate Hr Agenda By Sending Good Proposals For Approvals.
When Initially, I Was Working At Unit Level I Had Same Problem With Corporate Hr Vice Presidents But I Proposed Many New Initiatives With Consent Of My Unit Level Management And Got Corporate Approval And Subsequently I Succeeded In Elevating My Hierarchy In Management.
Despite Of Corporate Hr Head I Was Always Consulted Before Any Approval On Hr Issues It Was How We Create Faith And Trust In Our Abilities In Corporate.
You Have To Over Come This Aspect......
As Far As This Post Is Concern...there Is Nothing New Milions Of Such Quotees Will Follow Because Survival Of Fitest Is Law Of Business...and Nature Of Course.....
ENTIRE RESPONSES TO THIS POST ARE OVER SYMPATHING, OVER ACTING AND OVER REACTING.......
Badlu
From Saudi Arabia
Your Problem Is Lack Of Experience And Inovative Skills To Nevigate The Corporate Hr Agenda By Sending Good Proposals For Approvals.
When Initially, I Was Working At Unit Level I Had Same Problem With Corporate Hr Vice Presidents But I Proposed Many New Initiatives With Consent Of My Unit Level Management And Got Corporate Approval And Subsequently I Succeeded In Elevating My Hierarchy In Management.
Despite Of Corporate Hr Head I Was Always Consulted Before Any Approval On Hr Issues It Was How We Create Faith And Trust In Our Abilities In Corporate.
You Have To Over Come This Aspect......
As Far As This Post Is Concern...there Is Nothing New Milions Of Such Quotees Will Follow Because Survival Of Fitest Is Law Of Business...and Nature Of Course.....
ENTIRE RESPONSES TO THIS POST ARE OVER SYMPATHING, OVER ACTING AND OVER REACTING.......
Badlu
From Saudi Arabia
I am also facing the same problem like the login name "Please Help"
I should not say anything against my immediate boss because he is my senior. But the problem I am facing is that he is very diplomatic. If he is giving me some instructions now, after sometime or somedays he will say me that he didnot give me anysort of such instruction.I really face problem at that particular moment.
Moreover he never appreciate my work.He appreciate other's work .I really gets demotivated.
Pls suggest
Regards
Anindya
From India, Guwahati
I should not say anything against my immediate boss because he is my senior. But the problem I am facing is that he is very diplomatic. If he is giving me some instructions now, after sometime or somedays he will say me that he didnot give me anysort of such instruction.I really face problem at that particular moment.
Moreover he never appreciate my work.He appreciate other's work .I really gets demotivated.
Pls suggest
Regards
Anindya
From India, Guwahati
I gues this posting is too late. But I dont find anything wrong / humiliating in what Mr. Bad Looser earlier commented...
Its left to the user to take the message the LITERAL WAY or understand what he meant between the lines... It just meant ur are over reacting. Stay cool and focused.
From India, Madras
Its left to the user to take the message the LITERAL WAY or understand what he meant between the lines... It just meant ur are over reacting. Stay cool and focused.
From India, Madras
Dear Friend,
I appreciate & support your response to the comments of Mr. Bad Looser!!! Really, CiteHR should take some initiative to remove such bad advisors from all its blogs!!!
Every starters like me and many others need some valuable assistance from the seniors or colleagues on various routine HR administrative queries. We get the required support, assistance and motivation here on almost all of our queries.
Demotivating remarks from abusive users will hamper the very purpose of this blog. So All Bad Loosers should seriously change their attitude, if not, stop visting cite Hr!!!
Regards
From India, Hyderabad
I appreciate & support your response to the comments of Mr. Bad Looser!!! Really, CiteHR should take some initiative to remove such bad advisors from all its blogs!!!
Every starters like me and many others need some valuable assistance from the seniors or colleagues on various routine HR administrative queries. We get the required support, assistance and motivation here on almost all of our queries.
Demotivating remarks from abusive users will hamper the very purpose of this blog. So All Bad Loosers should seriously change their attitude, if not, stop visting cite Hr!!!
Regards
From India, Hyderabad
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