Dear Sravani/ Prachi,
True that HR Dept has to discuss this kind of issues with the top managment or the CEO to find out a solution for this.. but what if the CEO or a top management board member himself does these kind of things??
Well i just want to say that there wont be any full proof solutions for these kind of problems, because often we see people at very senior level doing these kind of things. Does that mean that they are not aware of the policies? They are very much aware of the policies but they do these things to show their power and send a message to other employees that they are powerful in the company and the policies and procedures cant stop them These kind of issues have to be handled on case to case basis and close them.
regards
Harsha.
From India
1True that HR Dept has to discuss this kind of issues with the top managment or the CEO to find out a solution for this.. but what if the CEO or a top management board member himself does these kind of things??
Well i just want to say that there wont be any full proof solutions for these kind of problems, because often we see people at very senior level doing these kind of things. Does that mean that they are not aware of the policies? They are very much aware of the policies but they do these things to show their power and send a message to other employees that they are powerful in the company and the policies and procedures cant stop them These kind of issues have to be handled on case to case basis and close them.
regards
Harsha.
From India
Dear Prachi,
It is really sorry to have such senior-positioned people behaving in such unprofessional manner. What I would stress is be it any level, there should be a HR round with emphasis on the emotional quotient. This would help us gauge the person in depth on how the individual can and would handle situations.
Please allow him to quit rather than have such miniscule-minded people spoiling the total decorum of the professional culture.
BR
DG
From India, Bangalore
It is really sorry to have such senior-positioned people behaving in such unprofessional manner. What I would stress is be it any level, there should be a HR round with emphasis on the emotional quotient. This would help us gauge the person in depth on how the individual can and would handle situations.
Please allow him to quit rather than have such miniscule-minded people spoiling the total decorum of the professional culture.
BR
DG
From India, Bangalore
Hi Members!
Thank you so much for your suggestions and responses.
I am really confused simply coz the whole matter is in the knowledge of the CEO. Understanding the fact the policies cannot be compromised upon and agreeing to the decisions taken regarding his wife etc., he still wants the Director to stay in the company and at the same time expects the HR to reach an amicable solution so that such or the related situations does not arise in future.
Can anyone suggest me as to what this "amicable" solution can be keeping in mind that the Director who created the entire fuss has to stay back?
Do let me know....................
Prachi Jain
From India, Delhi
Thank you so much for your suggestions and responses.
I am really confused simply coz the whole matter is in the knowledge of the CEO. Understanding the fact the policies cannot be compromised upon and agreeing to the decisions taken regarding his wife etc., he still wants the Director to stay in the company and at the same time expects the HR to reach an amicable solution so that such or the related situations does not arise in future.
Can anyone suggest me as to what this "amicable" solution can be keeping in mind that the Director who created the entire fuss has to stay back?
Do let me know....................
Prachi Jain
From India, Delhi
Hi Prachi Its really surprising that a person holding such a senior position is behaving in such an immature way .He should understand that the lady's birthday was celebrated by the organisation not because she is his wife but becaue she is an employee of the organisation.If she is given a special celebration , then other directors wil expect similar such celebrations for their spouses. If you are not firm now , tomorrow he may ask for a relaxtaion is the rules for his wife. Rules and policies are meant to be uniform for everyone.I personally feel that this person is just threatening to leave - just to satisfy his ego or maybe he has got anotther offer and wants to quit without disclosing the reason. HR departments in such cases have to be firm.If he wants to quit on such a petty issue , he is not worth retaining . Keep us posted on what finally happens .Regards Kirti
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Hello again,
Many of us have made the suggestion that a senior person, a peer needs to informalling and colleagially inform that his demeanor is not consistent with his role and level.
If he continues to act as a "prima donna" over this birthday issue, in my judgement, one should question his ability to be of continued value.
I fail to understand why one would think a "director has to stay back"? Is he family to the owners? Is he a significant shareholder? If the answer to these is no, then I am not clear as to why the senior leadership will not confront clearly childish and unprofessional demands.
Let me find the door, as many of said, no one is so "indispensible" or as Beyonce, said, " dont u ever getting to thinking...you're irreplaceable!. Truth is, no one is.
Best regards
Bruncha
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Many of us have made the suggestion that a senior person, a peer needs to informalling and colleagially inform that his demeanor is not consistent with his role and level.
If he continues to act as a "prima donna" over this birthday issue, in my judgement, one should question his ability to be of continued value.
I fail to understand why one would think a "director has to stay back"? Is he family to the owners? Is he a significant shareholder? If the answer to these is no, then I am not clear as to why the senior leadership will not confront clearly childish and unprofessional demands.
Let me find the door, as many of said, no one is so "indispensible" or as Beyonce, said, " dont u ever getting to thinking...you're irreplaceable!. Truth is, no one is.
Best regards
Bruncha
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
hi Prachi,
after reading this issue i will say that just suggest your management that can they afford to spoil the morale of whole organization for the sake of that director , and they will get the answer
From India, Bangalore
after reading this issue i will say that just suggest your management that can they afford to spoil the morale of whole organization for the sake of that director , and they will get the answer
From India, Bangalore
Hi all
I agree with the views that Prachi, Anubha,harshad and falak and others. The Senior employee happened to be a Director does not seem to be having foresight of his wife's birthday if it is so important to him. As a responsible person, he should have come forwarded to celebrate the same on his voluntary contribution and set an example. The action by the HR department is obsolutely right. No regrets called for. Anyhow, bring the factual position to the notice of the top management to decide the issue. The demand of the Senior employee is un-called for.
krk rao
From India, Jaipur
I agree with the views that Prachi, Anubha,harshad and falak and others. The Senior employee happened to be a Director does not seem to be having foresight of his wife's birthday if it is so important to him. As a responsible person, he should have come forwarded to celebrate the same on his voluntary contribution and set an example. The action by the HR department is obsolutely right. No regrets called for. Anyhow, bring the factual position to the notice of the top management to decide the issue. The demand of the Senior employee is un-called for.
krk rao
From India, Jaipur
Hi Prachi,
I agree with Riyaz that this situation could result in becoming an uncontrollable chain reaction. You will have other people in the organization also asking favours for the person they like and each time this situation will be quoted as an example and you wil also find yourself of being accused of being biased. So rather than thinking of the loss of present situation try setting a bench mark for the future. So that everyone understands that the they have to abide by the rules of the company and the company will not stoop down to fulfil employees personal desires at the expense of their rules and regulations. If your boss wants to show loyalty and concern to his wife he should realise there are better ways to do that than getting favours from the company. Professional and Personal relationships should not be confused with.
From India, Bangalore
I agree with Riyaz that this situation could result in becoming an uncontrollable chain reaction. You will have other people in the organization also asking favours for the person they like and each time this situation will be quoted as an example and you wil also find yourself of being accused of being biased. So rather than thinking of the loss of present situation try setting a bench mark for the future. So that everyone understands that the they have to abide by the rules of the company and the company will not stoop down to fulfil employees personal desires at the expense of their rules and regulations. If your boss wants to show loyalty and concern to his wife he should realise there are better ways to do that than getting favours from the company. Professional and Personal relationships should not be confused with.
From India, Bangalore
Look at this problem laterally. Can you look at some fringe benefits, if your org. policy is o.k with it and this may keep him cool. what I meant is, you working with him for quite sometime will be knowing his Strengths and Weakness. Look at the areas of his interest. Can it be capitalised? Afterall you cannot do another B.Party again for the same person.
Secondly has there been any other B'day party that was celebrated after this two incidents? If yes, is it relatively at the same level or different? Accordingly you address him. Since he is there for the past seven years at that senior level, he himself must have gone through different phases of this celebrations over the years.
"I feel this could have been racked by his wife (May be)." Since, he is already in line with her, kindly approach this issue through her and solve.
It will be better.
Regards,
Bhanumurthy
From India, Hyderabad
Secondly has there been any other B'day party that was celebrated after this two incidents? If yes, is it relatively at the same level or different? Accordingly you address him. Since he is there for the past seven years at that senior level, he himself must have gone through different phases of this celebrations over the years.
"I feel this could have been racked by his wife (May be)." Since, he is already in line with her, kindly approach this issue through her and solve.
It will be better.
Regards,
Bhanumurthy
From India, Hyderabad
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