Dear Members,
I have observed that the standard/quality of communication in citehr is deteriorating day by day.
Certain Threads / Posts are filled with lot of grammar mistakes and it's really hard to understand the real issue raised by an answer seeking member. The content is not even read twice before the same is being finally posted. Cite HR has even provided Spell Check facility in the Message Editor, in spite of which lot of mistakes are committed.
HR Professionals are expected to be the catalysts in a company, who should be precise , clear and sharp in various mediums of communication.
Don't you think its time for the moderators to intervene and raise the bar / level of communication in this forum by timely interventions ??
Inviting comments on the same.
From India, Mumbai
34I have observed that the standard/quality of communication in citehr is deteriorating day by day.
Certain Threads / Posts are filled with lot of grammar mistakes and it's really hard to understand the real issue raised by an answer seeking member. The content is not even read twice before the same is being finally posted. Cite HR has even provided Spell Check facility in the Message Editor, in spite of which lot of mistakes are committed.
HR Professionals are expected to be the catalysts in a company, who should be precise , clear and sharp in various mediums of communication.
Don't you think its time for the moderators to intervene and raise the bar / level of communication in this forum by timely interventions ??
Inviting comments on the same.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr.Sriram,
I fully agree with you but we also should think that most of the members in this forum are falling in either immediate passed outs or yet to come out from college.
I believe its we who have to educate them when they going through mistakes.
Hope im clear to you.
with kind regards,
harini
From India, Madras
I fully agree with you but we also should think that most of the members in this forum are falling in either immediate passed outs or yet to come out from college.
I believe its we who have to educate them when they going through mistakes.
Hope im clear to you.
with kind regards,
harini
From India, Madras
Dear Sriram,
First and foremost, a big thank you for initiating this thread . We all agree that we came to this community to groom ourselves professionally. Hence, what we write and how we present our thoughts shows our interest towards self-development.
We have been requesting members repeatedly not to use SMS language and post requests in complete sentences. Sometimes, it’s beyond grammar, we can’t understand what is meant. Consequently, we miss reverting to the post. I have received repeated requests and complaints on this. A bad presentation drives seniors and serious readers away from replying.
Internet is an open platform. The mistake that is made today will stay forever. This makes it essential that we think twice before we present ourselves and make necessary preparation.
There are leaders in this community, who would not have been, within our reach. Mr. Narashimhan had co-authored a book with Hubert Rampersad. Samvedan is a sounding board to many CEO. They are just few to name, there are many more. The more I get to know, the more it humbles me. I realize how important it is to maintain the standard which would meet these great leader's expectations. Generating a value through whatever we do, carves our place on this earth. A minor mistake such as an incorrect sentence formation or our own eagerness to appear casual can kill it all.
Coining standards would create lot more takeaways for the one who accepts it . This can be realized only when someone invests in learning and developing themselves.
Once again, I thank you for this initiative. I am following this thread, will wait to read the point of view
Regards,
(Cite Contribution)
From India, Mumbai
First and foremost, a big thank you for initiating this thread . We all agree that we came to this community to groom ourselves professionally. Hence, what we write and how we present our thoughts shows our interest towards self-development.
We have been requesting members repeatedly not to use SMS language and post requests in complete sentences. Sometimes, it’s beyond grammar, we can’t understand what is meant. Consequently, we miss reverting to the post. I have received repeated requests and complaints on this. A bad presentation drives seniors and serious readers away from replying.
Internet is an open platform. The mistake that is made today will stay forever. This makes it essential that we think twice before we present ourselves and make necessary preparation.
There are leaders in this community, who would not have been, within our reach. Mr. Narashimhan had co-authored a book with Hubert Rampersad. Samvedan is a sounding board to many CEO. They are just few to name, there are many more. The more I get to know, the more it humbles me. I realize how important it is to maintain the standard which would meet these great leader's expectations. Generating a value through whatever we do, carves our place on this earth. A minor mistake such as an incorrect sentence formation or our own eagerness to appear casual can kill it all.
Coining standards would create lot more takeaways for the one who accepts it . This can be realized only when someone invests in learning and developing themselves.
Once again, I thank you for this initiative. I am following this thread, will wait to read the point of view
Regards,
(Cite Contribution)
From India, Mumbai
Hello Sriram,
I agree with (Cite Contribution) that it's good that you have highlighted this aspect.
While it's necessary & realistic to expect the members doing the Postings to improve their written communication skills [I only hope they realise that in the long-run, it's THEY who benefit more than this Forum], I think CiteHR itself needs to fix/modify some ground-rules.
Why not make some rules EMBEDDED into the Message Posting Form in CiteHR that will PREVENT THE POSTING if there are Spelling mistakes, grammar mistakes, sms language, etc? There are many sites that show * where the fields are mandatory--if such fields aren't filled-in, then the Form isn't accepted. Maybe CiteHR can adopt a similar practice--instead of * symbols, CiteHR can track specific category of faults/mistakes to stop the Posting from going thru unless corrected.
Food for thought. Any comments?
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
I agree with (Cite Contribution) that it's good that you have highlighted this aspect.
While it's necessary & realistic to expect the members doing the Postings to improve their written communication skills [I only hope they realise that in the long-run, it's THEY who benefit more than this Forum], I think CiteHR itself needs to fix/modify some ground-rules.
Why not make some rules EMBEDDED into the Message Posting Form in CiteHR that will PREVENT THE POSTING if there are Spelling mistakes, grammar mistakes, sms language, etc? There are many sites that show * where the fields are mandatory--if such fields aren't filled-in, then the Form isn't accepted. Maybe CiteHR can adopt a similar practice--instead of * symbols, CiteHR can track specific category of faults/mistakes to stop the Posting from going thru unless corrected.
Food for thought. Any comments?
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Hi
While I agree with Sriram, I really do not think the Moderators can keep proofreading all the time. In any case there are a number of youngsters who have serious limitations in the English language, attempting to express themselves and they are bound to be a lot of mistakes in their inputs.
However, that is no excuse for casual questioning and for students trying to get ready made solutions. The use of SMS language is another ill that plagues this forum. In my view to curb this, we must educate the more serious Citehr users to respond only to those serious questions that are well framed and require expert guidance. This should act as a deterrent to those students in particular who try to get ready made answers to assignments.
Ignoring poorly drafted questions, casually sought explanations and queries that are in the nature of using the forum as a short cut to assignment answers would definitely act as a good filter to ensure better quality of queries and well drafted inputs become the order of the day.
Regards
From India, Mumbai
While I agree with Sriram, I really do not think the Moderators can keep proofreading all the time. In any case there are a number of youngsters who have serious limitations in the English language, attempting to express themselves and they are bound to be a lot of mistakes in their inputs.
However, that is no excuse for casual questioning and for students trying to get ready made solutions. The use of SMS language is another ill that plagues this forum. In my view to curb this, we must educate the more serious Citehr users to respond only to those serious questions that are well framed and require expert guidance. This should act as a deterrent to those students in particular who try to get ready made answers to assignments.
Ignoring poorly drafted questions, casually sought explanations and queries that are in the nature of using the forum as a short cut to assignment answers would definitely act as a good filter to ensure better quality of queries and well drafted inputs become the order of the day.
Regards
From India, Mumbai
Dear Sriram
As said by Mr. Jacob and (Cite Contribution) it is not looking nice to see such a grammatical and spelling mistakes in the threads.
Some People are using the Chat langauge and SMS language, which required to be avoided. In SMS there are some restriction for letters. So it was accepted in SMS. In Chat quick reply sought, so there are the shortcut words and spell mistakes are accepted. For See You C U, am M, these are not easily understood for every one.
Thank you Mr. Sriram for initiating such a useful thread, which will alert at least some people for correcting themselves.
I am not telling that everyone posting here are fully conversant with language. But the purpose of language is to convey their querries and feelings to other in correct sense. In some cases it got failed and the replies will be of different nature.
To avoid such circastic situation the grammatical and spelling mistakes can be avoided.
With warm regards
S. Bhaskar
9099024667
From India, Kumbakonam
As said by Mr. Jacob and (Cite Contribution) it is not looking nice to see such a grammatical and spelling mistakes in the threads.
Some People are using the Chat langauge and SMS language, which required to be avoided. In SMS there are some restriction for letters. So it was accepted in SMS. In Chat quick reply sought, so there are the shortcut words and spell mistakes are accepted. For See You C U, am M, these are not easily understood for every one.
Thank you Mr. Sriram for initiating such a useful thread, which will alert at least some people for correcting themselves.
I am not telling that everyone posting here are fully conversant with language. But the purpose of language is to convey their querries and feelings to other in correct sense. In some cases it got failed and the replies will be of different nature.
To avoid such circastic situation the grammatical and spelling mistakes can be avoided.
With warm regards
S. Bhaskar
9099024667
From India, Kumbakonam
Hi All,
I beg to disagree with you all on spelling and grammar mistakes by the members of the forum. There are members who are not very proficient with English language it does not mean that we should not respond to their queries or their queries are not genuine.
Many renowned leaders in their fields are here undoubtedly, but that does not mean that a person with a Hindi medium background or any such educational background are not allowed to post their queries. English language is no parameter to judge the knowledge of such people here on the forum. I know many active and popular members on the forum and their written communication skills are genuinely not up to the mark.
Yes, I agree that sms language or chat language should not be used, and i guess with our intervention these things will be in control.
Friends this is a learning platform and there are no bindings to the learnings, if at all they require some help in improving their written skills lets help them.
Regards,
Archna
From India, Delhi
I beg to disagree with you all on spelling and grammar mistakes by the members of the forum. There are members who are not very proficient with English language it does not mean that we should not respond to their queries or their queries are not genuine.
Many renowned leaders in their fields are here undoubtedly, but that does not mean that a person with a Hindi medium background or any such educational background are not allowed to post their queries. English language is no parameter to judge the knowledge of such people here on the forum. I know many active and popular members on the forum and their written communication skills are genuinely not up to the mark.
Yes, I agree that sms language or chat language should not be used, and i guess with our intervention these things will be in control.
Friends this is a learning platform and there are no bindings to the learnings, if at all they require some help in improving their written skills lets help them.
Regards,
Archna
From India, Delhi
Hello Everyone,
Looks like the main point is getting diverted.
Like I mentioned in my earlier posting, let not the COMPLETE onus of using/learning the right language be only on the members of this Forum--Archna has given the right reasons why this expectation is unreasonable & impractical.
The Forum also needs to do it's bit by adopting measures that will not only enhance the overall capacity of the members to improve & learn thru the Forum itself. The reason why I suggested that "CiteHR can track specific category of faults/mistakes to stop the Posting from going thru unless corrected".
In fact, this is not very difficult or unrealistic. CiteHR has already in place the Spellchecker. Looking from a Software Developer's point-of-view, the SpellChecker right now is programmed only to alert about the spelling mistakes--leaving what to do to the individual typing the message. Minor modifications/changes can be done to ensure that the Posting is blocked unless the mistakes are corrected. To what extent & which mistakes ought to be allowed/passed may need to be decided--keeping in view the various profiles of the members--as Archna mentioned.
In this context, I agree with her--pl see the following recent Thread where multiple reasons are given by many why CiteHR is so liked by the professionals: https://www.citehr.com/308070-citehr-best.html
Apart from the quality of responses they get, another factor is that they get the responses without any link to their Current standing or position.
As seniors, I think it's our role to guide others--BUT without condoning their lapses/mistakes AND at the same time ensuring a method/avenue is provided to correct themselves. In a way, CiteHR would or could evolve as a Forum that indirectly contributes the wholesome improvement of the skills of such persons AND @ the same time ensure the overall caliber & standards of this Forum are maintained.
I agree with B. Jacob that the Moderators can keep proofreading all the time. This is what I thought could get handled when I suggested incorporating into the Posting Software means to handle such issues, even before B. Jacob posted his reply, since it's humanly impractical for anyone to just keep on correcting others' language issues--I think the Moderators have better things to do. That's where 'Automating' this aspect helps. After all, we live amidst computers--so why not utilize it much better for everyone's benefit?
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Looks like the main point is getting diverted.
Like I mentioned in my earlier posting, let not the COMPLETE onus of using/learning the right language be only on the members of this Forum--Archna has given the right reasons why this expectation is unreasonable & impractical.
The Forum also needs to do it's bit by adopting measures that will not only enhance the overall capacity of the members to improve & learn thru the Forum itself. The reason why I suggested that "CiteHR can track specific category of faults/mistakes to stop the Posting from going thru unless corrected".
In fact, this is not very difficult or unrealistic. CiteHR has already in place the Spellchecker. Looking from a Software Developer's point-of-view, the SpellChecker right now is programmed only to alert about the spelling mistakes--leaving what to do to the individual typing the message. Minor modifications/changes can be done to ensure that the Posting is blocked unless the mistakes are corrected. To what extent & which mistakes ought to be allowed/passed may need to be decided--keeping in view the various profiles of the members--as Archna mentioned.
In this context, I agree with her--pl see the following recent Thread where multiple reasons are given by many why CiteHR is so liked by the professionals: https://www.citehr.com/308070-citehr-best.html
Apart from the quality of responses they get, another factor is that they get the responses without any link to their Current standing or position.
As seniors, I think it's our role to guide others--BUT without condoning their lapses/mistakes AND at the same time ensuring a method/avenue is provided to correct themselves. In a way, CiteHR would or could evolve as a Forum that indirectly contributes the wholesome improvement of the skills of such persons AND @ the same time ensure the overall caliber & standards of this Forum are maintained.
I agree with B. Jacob that the Moderators can keep proofreading all the time. This is what I thought could get handled when I suggested incorporating into the Posting Software means to handle such issues, even before B. Jacob posted his reply, since it's humanly impractical for anyone to just keep on correcting others' language issues--I think the Moderators have better things to do. That's where 'Automating' this aspect helps. After all, we live amidst computers--so why not utilize it much better for everyone's benefit?
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Dear all,
I am not sure whether we should be discussing this point in the general forum. It has been considered by Moderators and Senior Members' Group. Even contributor to the discussion in this thread have used SMS language; I think it has become a habit with some.
Grammar and spelling mistakes or some typos can be ignored, if the query makes sense. However posts such as those at https://www.citehr.com/274413-work-l...tionnaire.html are most annoying.
Have a nice day
Simhan
From United Kingdom
I am not sure whether we should be discussing this point in the general forum. It has been considered by Moderators and Senior Members' Group. Even contributor to the discussion in this thread have used SMS language; I think it has become a habit with some.
Grammar and spelling mistakes or some typos can be ignored, if the query makes sense. However posts such as those at https://www.citehr.com/274413-work-l...tionnaire.html are most annoying.
Have a nice day
Simhan
From United Kingdom
Dear All,
Thanks for such wonderful feed backs and thoughts on this issue.
I agree with Ms. Harini on the point that most of the member are “either immediate passed outs or yet to come out from college”. In this era, where English is taught even at the elementary level, a person who is in college / passed out is expected to be conversant in English and should be able to communicate effectively, without grammar mistakes. It’s really shocking to see members posting threads with not even a grammatically correct sentence. Seniors can only point out the mistakes and direct them to learn and correct the language. Finally, it should come from with in and change for the better.
Mr. T Satheesh has put forward a very tricky question to the moderators, whether to implant a rule with regard to the posting of incorrect threads. I would appreciate such an initiative by Citehr but it should in no way hinder the “learning experience” of this forum. No member should leave / ignore this forum, for the complexity it might demand when such rules are implemented. A process by which all incorrect postings are displayed in the forum after a check / correction by senior members / moderators should be adopted. This will ensure that a member’s query is address in the best possible manner. (This can either be a manual process or an automated one as suggested by Mr. TS)
Ms. Archana presented a different perceptive of this issue. I would definitely agree to her point that language should not be a hindrance in expressing themselves and not a parameter to judge the knowledge, but given the circumstances of this forum, which is essentially one of the most sought after HR blog, should maintain minimum levels of standards with regard to usage of English language. An idea is ideal only when the possessor expresses it to the people clearly and effectively.
As clearly indicated by Ms. (Cite Contribution), “Absence of intent to put an effort” – is the most serious issue to be addressed with in. Unless and until members decide to change, this issue will remain to haunt this forum. Lets hope what we have discussed here in this thread will be a eye opener to everyone.
Thanks
From India, Mumbai
Thanks for such wonderful feed backs and thoughts on this issue.
I agree with Ms. Harini on the point that most of the member are “either immediate passed outs or yet to come out from college”. In this era, where English is taught even at the elementary level, a person who is in college / passed out is expected to be conversant in English and should be able to communicate effectively, without grammar mistakes. It’s really shocking to see members posting threads with not even a grammatically correct sentence. Seniors can only point out the mistakes and direct them to learn and correct the language. Finally, it should come from with in and change for the better.
Mr. T Satheesh has put forward a very tricky question to the moderators, whether to implant a rule with regard to the posting of incorrect threads. I would appreciate such an initiative by Citehr but it should in no way hinder the “learning experience” of this forum. No member should leave / ignore this forum, for the complexity it might demand when such rules are implemented. A process by which all incorrect postings are displayed in the forum after a check / correction by senior members / moderators should be adopted. This will ensure that a member’s query is address in the best possible manner. (This can either be a manual process or an automated one as suggested by Mr. TS)
Ms. Archana presented a different perceptive of this issue. I would definitely agree to her point that language should not be a hindrance in expressing themselves and not a parameter to judge the knowledge, but given the circumstances of this forum, which is essentially one of the most sought after HR blog, should maintain minimum levels of standards with regard to usage of English language. An idea is ideal only when the possessor expresses it to the people clearly and effectively.
As clearly indicated by Ms. (Cite Contribution), “Absence of intent to put an effort” – is the most serious issue to be addressed with in. Unless and until members decide to change, this issue will remain to haunt this forum. Lets hope what we have discussed here in this thread will be a eye opener to everyone.
Thanks
From India, Mumbai
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