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chandpathak
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Dear Friends
Eight Questions. Any brave answers?
  1. What do you call a person who takes credit for some one else's hardwork?
  2. Who are these people who indulge in these unethical practices in cheating others of their hardwork?
  3. Why do they do these things? What are their compulsions & motivations?
  4. What kind of education would they have received?
  5. Can we call that education?
  6. What kind of upbringing , habits, lifestyles would these kind of people have?
  7. Are they themselves responsible or should we blame their Teachers, Environment, System, Society.
  8. What can we do with these people? How do we treat them? Do they deserve respect?
ANY ANSWERS? ANY BRAVE PEOPLE OUT THEIR?
Capt Chand Pathak

From India, Lucknow
Raj_at_CiteHR
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Talking of brave/bold answers, the following may sound too straight forward to some. I would love if it rolls out a controversy and the subsequently, the thread…
  1. What do you call a person who takes credit for some one else's hard work?
An opportunist, who has been tuned wrongly. Instead of rightful opportunities alone, the person doesn’t mind encashing on any opportunity rightfully or not. More than this guy, it is the inexperience of the first person, who hasn’t probably learnt to ‘take’ the credit or create situations (in this extremely dynamic world) – situations that would have credit roll into his/her lap.
The other name for such a person would be “short sighted”, because such techniques may help in the short run, but cannot surely be a long term permanent solution to a way of life.
  1. Who are these people who indulge in these unethical practices in cheating others of their hardwork?
Mostly corporate people who know how to jump into situations and pick up the credit on their own. They may be called selfish, but that’s how some of us are. Again, it is good such people exist because then it gives us the opportunity to work SMART and keep our eyes/ears open. Be alert to identify such people who may not grab onto your hard work. Its survival of the smartest now.
  1. Why do they do these things? What are their compulsions & motivations?
Superiority complex is what drives them. There may be no compulsions, but lot of motivation to play such a game. As a child, probably non one had the time to watch their actions and derive their motives from those. That grew upto such gross violations when they grow up. Not sure if such people also peeped into others answer sheets during an examination and got away with very good marks eventually!!! But WHY do they do it.. because some specific instances of so-called success that they had, coupled with no one to check the wrong, which grew into such a personality trait.
For eg., no parents would have ever told their children to start smoking. But lot of people do. WHY? What are their compulsions and motivations? Wrong HABIT that got developed?
  1. What kind of education would they have received?
No one would have taught them to cheat or jump on to others hard work, but these are things they pick up / educate themselves on through short term gains. Only if someone more responsible would have put a short term capital gain TAX on them, when things were still under control.
  1. Can we call that education?
Yeah, education that uncontrolled. Translate this to Uncontrolled Enthusiasm to do wrong things. Education is necessary. Enthusiasm is also necessary. But do we let it go hay-wire? Nuclear energy is necessary, but do we start bombing places. All things around can be channelized into the right or wrong track... through guided missions. Education alone will not ensure things falling into place on their own. Check “what kind of” education is being given, what impact is it having, or are there some extra-uncalled for education which the student is picking up on the way? If yes, kill it then and there. A lawn needs to have lush green grass to be appreciated by all. But weeds do come up time and again. They need to be cleaned. If we don’t, can we call it a lawn (read, education)?
  1. What kind of upbringing, habits, lifestyles would these kind of people have?
Like the ones discussed above.
More importantly, it is not a permanent way of life. After damaging many other careers, some day it would come back to their own. “That” day their own lifestyle would change – but would it be toll late? Till that doesn’t happen, they, for sure are living a SMART life… till the time the judges don’t identify that its only the credit that they grabbed, but not the real hard work. Even till that time, they would be treated as SMARTER than the lot, who at least can identify opportunities and grab them on time and make use of them too.
  1. Are they themselves responsible or should we blame their Teachers, Environment, System, Society.
Parents.. sorry… “ignorant” parent are to be questioned first. Then the teachers. Blaming the environment/system/society doesn’t help. It is there… accept the nature of that animal. Once accepted, parents and teachers need to ensure it doesn’t have wrong affects on an individual. They need to coach that taking credit is necessary, identifying and availing opportunities is very important to live a life… but also be ready TO DO THE HARDWORK… so that you are ready for any eventuality.
In the discussion above we have sub-consciously assumed that such people will NEVER get into hard work. In those cases, they will still learn it the hard way, at the high cost of others.
  1. What can we do with these people? How do we treat them? Do they deserve respect?
Identify them, to begin with. Be smarter. Allow them to live under illusion. If you are smarter, you will play your cards much more smartly. Learn from them in order to be ready with your counter moves next time. And for that learning, do respect them. If they were not there, you wouldn’t learn the art of being alert and not realize the need to be smarter.

From India, Delhi
chandpathak
4

Dear Raj

Your's is one of the most studied, objective, dispassionate and sensible reply I could have imagined.

Brilliant!!

Please do keep contributing to this forum. We all need people like you!

What I could decipher from your reply was that you believe that these people are "Smarter". Indeed they are. But I also believe that it is the inherent character of the person, the genetical makeup, which if nutured in an environment and circumstances which aids his/her natural instincts will turn him into this kind of person.

I know of people who are smart enough to realize that they are being taken advantage of, but do nothing / can do nothing because:

1. The other "Smart" person is in a "position" where he can take advantage ( It is like hitting a person who has his hands tied behind him and can't hit back).For example- Take away his "position", and he / she may lose all the smartedge.

2. The victim may do nothing as it is not his inherent nature to hit back, outsmart others, hurt anyone or KILL his conceince in order to prove his smartness.

I feel it boils down to who listens to his / her conceince and who doesn't.

Capt Chand Pathak

From India, Lucknow
Priyesh.Bhatt@siemens.com
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Dear Sirs,
I must say that you both of them are genious.The depth of topics you both having is really appreciable.
I find myself lucky as I am member of this site bcoz it is enriching my knowledge by people (sorry genious)like you.
Thanks a lot
Regards
Priyeshh

From India
nipuna
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really genious questions and finally the genious answers for all the question.
But in my opinion, these smart people who exist in the beautiful world, you cannot change them.
i agree that these are some genetic qualities and some are situational ar can say that due to the environment.
and finally these smart people are always smart and its not a short tem. in long term also they always get the success as they use all the opportunities to avail others credit. and the people who are not that smart to grab others opportunities thay cannot change themselves as they are teached in that way in the learning stage.
so, the victim always is a victim and the smart person get smarter and enjoy others hard work. and in my opinion its the hard core bottom line of all this questions an answers.

From India, Delhi
anjuprince
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All the Eight Questions has just One answers and that is "Our POLITICIANS.".. just dnt let your child be like them Anju Prince
From India, Chandigarh
K V SATISH KUMAR
1

Same Situations I am also facing,the victim always is a victim and the smart person get smarter and enjoy others hard work. The management also not recoginising the hard worker person. How many days & years it will go on like this.
From India, Hyderabad
as16_86
HEy all seniors......
Thanks for all the valuable comments and sharing your thoughts........
Even though i might be be very small in age compared to all of u.....
I believe that the nature itself is partial to every1 and at the end who is smarter, cunning n damm desperate will win the race......
When we have choosen our path we have to run not to walk....
Not to forget
** Survival of the fittest**

From India, Bangalore
chandpathak
4

Hi Vivek I have no issues with it. Please do mail me the link once you have published it on your site. Capt Chand Pathak
From India, Lucknow
chandpathak
4

Hi All
Just wondering if only the victims and the less smart people cry foul? Or do "smart" people too crib about people taking advantage of them.
Again if I compare myself to people smarter than me ( Fortunately I can realize if the other person is smarter than I am after some interaction) and how some of them are pretty honest in theri dealings and then I see some people who I presume may be a little less smart than I am, and how despite that, I treat them with utmost respect and honesty, I again feel all this may NOT be a question of survival of the smartest but more to do with one's ethical values and moral concience.
Thieves, Burgulars, Dacoits, conmen etc are supposedly less smart in the chain, but still try to take away other's hard earned money... Almost the same as stealing some one's hard work ....right? You tell me!!
Capt Chand PAthak

From India, Lucknow
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