Hello,
Now this is a late entry compared to my last post here.
Mr. Jayesh Yohannan: That was an interesting debate, and I did learn a few useful things. And Sandeep - this would be the best message: Right talent for the right opportunity, coupled with the right attitude - makes it the perfect match.
As already quoted earlier: when we are looking at knowledge - why should we look at someone else when we already have people possessing knowledge in the "particular" industry we are hiring.
When availability is more/ sufficient, I guess we can go in chosing whats the bet available.
And there are also times when the availability is scare. for example, I was once looking for Plot Sales. Here we have only owners of a huge portion of land doing the sdales by themselves with known groups, or agents/ brokers who do it on behalf of them. A very few good companies are in plot development (purely), and again the quality was not that great (like the kind of person we were looking at).
Something closer to this would have been Apartment / Reseidential houses sales person, but we chose to go in for selecting Insurance or Mutual funds sales person, who would have a good track record in the last 5 years and must be in Manager position.
So if you see the above - its again the availability and then the quality.
From India, Madras
54Now this is a late entry compared to my last post here.
Mr. Jayesh Yohannan: That was an interesting debate, and I did learn a few useful things. And Sandeep - this would be the best message: Right talent for the right opportunity, coupled with the right attitude - makes it the perfect match.
As already quoted earlier: when we are looking at knowledge - why should we look at someone else when we already have people possessing knowledge in the "particular" industry we are hiring.
When availability is more/ sufficient, I guess we can go in chosing whats the bet available.
And there are also times when the availability is scare. for example, I was once looking for Plot Sales. Here we have only owners of a huge portion of land doing the sdales by themselves with known groups, or agents/ brokers who do it on behalf of them. A very few good companies are in plot development (purely), and again the quality was not that great (like the kind of person we were looking at).
Something closer to this would have been Apartment / Reseidential houses sales person, but we chose to go in for selecting Insurance or Mutual funds sales person, who would have a good track record in the last 5 years and must be in Manager position.
So if you see the above - its again the availability and then the quality.
From India, Madras
Dear All,
This discussion is side tracking the major issue due to out of proportion Essay and thesis writings by some members......
HR is not Marketing products but Marketing has HR strategies to recruit best talent in Marketing.
Our discussion has prolonged due to low I.Q. level..........
Kind Regards,
Partho
From Saudi Arabia
This discussion is side tracking the major issue due to out of proportion Essay and thesis writings by some members......
HR is not Marketing products but Marketing has HR strategies to recruit best talent in Marketing.
Our discussion has prolonged due to low I.Q. level..........
Kind Regards,
Partho
From Saudi Arabia
Hi Partha,
I appreciate your observation because I also realised that this seems abnormal discussion taking place on subject which has limited HR scope for intervention as described by you.
We as HR believe talent hunt and if marketing is subject then as HR we focus on his skills,strategic expertise in sales promotion,Product Knowledge and Product Application, Ability to discover Client Inventory, opening new accounts, success rate in closing deals, Presentation Skills etc.
Regards,
Abraham
From Saudi Arabia
I appreciate your observation because I also realised that this seems abnormal discussion taking place on subject which has limited HR scope for intervention as described by you.
We as HR believe talent hunt and if marketing is subject then as HR we focus on his skills,strategic expertise in sales promotion,Product Knowledge and Product Application, Ability to discover Client Inventory, opening new accounts, success rate in closing deals, Presentation Skills etc.
Regards,
Abraham
From Saudi Arabia
Sandeep,
Its good you realized what's beneficial for you.
The best thing is point is that you have got motivated,thats what matters in the end.
There may be some practical replies,given by some Hr's our here.
But my personal suggestion to you would be never get demotivated anytime by any reply which may be practical ut given in given in unhealthy fashion.
Its not necessay that what xperiance these people had or seen,its evrywhere.Some people are just limited to those old concepts of Selection. Opportunities should be given to evryone & than the best should be selected.But giving opportunities is very mandtry that's my personal point.
Lectures & philosophies keep coming and going.In simple language I would like to tell you that keep yourself open as per your interests & keep trying
There are still good HR policies by some broad-minded HR's who are educated in real sense..So keep your breath holding & never give up..Keep trying since Sales has no limitations..Lots of jobs & lots of opening..Hope there would be some practical HR's rather than bookinsh ones..
Cheers
Rashmi Bhalerao
From India, Mumbai
Its good you realized what's beneficial for you.
The best thing is point is that you have got motivated,thats what matters in the end.
There may be some practical replies,given by some Hr's our here.
But my personal suggestion to you would be never get demotivated anytime by any reply which may be practical ut given in given in unhealthy fashion.
Its not necessay that what xperiance these people had or seen,its evrywhere.Some people are just limited to those old concepts of Selection. Opportunities should be given to evryone & than the best should be selected.But giving opportunities is very mandtry that's my personal point.
Lectures & philosophies keep coming and going.In simple language I would like to tell you that keep yourself open as per your interests & keep trying
There are still good HR policies by some broad-minded HR's who are educated in real sense..So keep your breath holding & never give up..Keep trying since Sales has no limitations..Lots of jobs & lots of opening..Hope there would be some practical HR's rather than bookinsh ones..
Cheers
Rashmi Bhalerao
From India, Mumbai
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