Dear Cite Members,
I want to clear they are giving appointment letter only when we are raising voice bt first we have to sign a legal bond of 100 rs. stamp paper having condition cant leave company befors 3 yrs and if want to then serve 3 months notice may be whatever position you hold and never ever do the job in same profile is this ethical on company part.
Please guide me as there is no HR, no hierarchy level hw to help organization from my side. I am nt hr bt have done PGDBA in HR and worked as coordinator in other organization so feel that company needs some changes. How to presents that , please guide me
Thanks in Advance
Sudha Sundriyal
From India, Delhi
I want to clear they are giving appointment letter only when we are raising voice bt first we have to sign a legal bond of 100 rs. stamp paper having condition cant leave company befors 3 yrs and if want to then serve 3 months notice may be whatever position you hold and never ever do the job in same profile is this ethical on company part.
Please guide me as there is no HR, no hierarchy level hw to help organization from my side. I am nt hr bt have done PGDBA in HR and worked as coordinator in other organization so feel that company needs some changes. How to presents that , please guide me
Thanks in Advance
Sudha Sundriyal
From India, Delhi
An appointment letter is the "contractual obligation" between you and the organisation.
If you do not have this, then both are exposed - it is in the interest of these parties to have an appointment letter.
From South Africa, Fietas
If you do not have this, then both are exposed - it is in the interest of these parties to have an appointment letter.
From South Africa, Fietas
Dear Mr. Rinamuller,
Please clear how to convince them they give examples of the person working here for more than 10 yrs bt no appointment letter, they all are just experienced in field bt having no higher upgradation in education or technical.
More than 30 people are same, i had tried for six months bt everytime MD give excuse talk to Accounts person but no result, then people had told just keep letter head with you and use as you require.
Bt i dont want to do , so guide me. Our MD thinks HR as the worst work of any person so have no HR department. How to change their mindset, i want to do bt how????
Please guide me more
Thanks and Regards
Sudha Sundriyal
From India, Delhi
Please clear how to convince them they give examples of the person working here for more than 10 yrs bt no appointment letter, they all are just experienced in field bt having no higher upgradation in education or technical.
More than 30 people are same, i had tried for six months bt everytime MD give excuse talk to Accounts person but no result, then people had told just keep letter head with you and use as you require.
Bt i dont want to do , so guide me. Our MD thinks HR as the worst work of any person so have no HR department. How to change their mindset, i want to do bt how????
Please guide me more
Thanks and Regards
Sudha Sundriyal
From India, Delhi
Offer letter is given upon selection outlining the designation, profile, remuneration, location,and specific date by which candidate has to join. On the date of joining prescribed HR forms e.g. PF, gratuity are given and candidate has to submit these forms.Appointment letter should be given on induction. Each company has to subscribe to concerned laws.
If you wish to join ask for the appointment letter in a gentle manner. You may even obtain employee's copy of employee rule book, certified standing orders.
Be careful and shy away from unscrupulous employers.
From India, Chandigarh
42If you wish to join ask for the appointment letter in a gentle manner. You may even obtain employee's copy of employee rule book, certified standing orders.
Be careful and shy away from unscrupulous employers.
From India, Chandigarh
On the Joining Employer Give Offer Lateer, at the end of the month Appointment latter also give. without giving back with signature a copy the first salry is not realesed. at the completion of probatinary the confirmation latter arrive with congratulations.. than we are permenant employee
From India, Surat
From India, Surat
hi,
as per labour legislations, whether an employer had issued an appointment letter or not is immaterial, if you can prove that you had worked there. even for availing the service benefits the legal position is same.
the intention behind not issuing an appointment letter is that to know about the suitability of a new employee and to terminate his services, if he is not suitable for the employer. on the other hand your apprehension is whether my appointment is secured if the letter of appointment is not issued. pragmatically considering, if you are really capable of rendering the results to the best satisfaction of the employer, no employer would intend to terminate your services, because there are no many good employees who can give results expected by the employers. so better to concentrate on work and be favorite employee of your employer.
Satyesh
From India, Bangalore
as per labour legislations, whether an employer had issued an appointment letter or not is immaterial, if you can prove that you had worked there. even for availing the service benefits the legal position is same.
the intention behind not issuing an appointment letter is that to know about the suitability of a new employee and to terminate his services, if he is not suitable for the employer. on the other hand your apprehension is whether my appointment is secured if the letter of appointment is not issued. pragmatically considering, if you are really capable of rendering the results to the best satisfaction of the employer, no employer would intend to terminate your services, because there are no many good employees who can give results expected by the employers. so better to concentrate on work and be favorite employee of your employer.
Satyesh
From India, Bangalore
Sudha -
few years back, a company named Classic Labels qualified as 2nd best workplace to work for.
the company did not have a HR manager nor a quality manager for 50 yrs of operation yet is superlative in HR & Quality practices.
average salary of a worker was 20k then..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
mapara -
are there any strong reasons which are legally valid too for -
what has first salary got to do with appointment letter ?
why offer letter at time of joining and appointment letter at end of the month
From India, Delhi
few years back, a company named Classic Labels qualified as 2nd best workplace to work for.
the company did not have a HR manager nor a quality manager for 50 yrs of operation yet is superlative in HR & Quality practices.
average salary of a worker was 20k then..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
mapara -
are there any strong reasons which are legally valid too for -
what has first salary got to do with appointment letter ?
why offer letter at time of joining and appointment letter at end of the month
From India, Delhi
actually they have to give the appoinment letter . bt now they given you only Conformation letter . reason is that mostly candidates lives the company after getting the appoinmemt letter on current ctc. so conformation letter now issues. after probition period (6 month) they issues the conform letter that is appoinment letter means you are the permanant employee of our company .
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear SVSrana,
i am not saying its bad and HR is to be there but at least some person should be there who can answer your questions of leaves, a proper hierarchy what to be achieved by us if we get some work done not money designation and many small issues. we have accounts person bt when we ask something priority he gives to his work and our will be listen when we are just going to leave or if not imp after few days.
I am not complaining , regarding salary dont ask its just a bargaining game, and i am just interested to help my company and regarding offer letter when anyone join here he/she should have to give all documents +releiving letter bt from there side you just keep moving here and there . I can manage as i had contact with superiors who can help me, bt i really want to help my company and persons working here at least basic needs of everyone should be taken care. I hope nw you will show me the right way.
Thanks
Sudha Sundriyal
From India, Delhi
i am not saying its bad and HR is to be there but at least some person should be there who can answer your questions of leaves, a proper hierarchy what to be achieved by us if we get some work done not money designation and many small issues. we have accounts person bt when we ask something priority he gives to his work and our will be listen when we are just going to leave or if not imp after few days.
I am not complaining , regarding salary dont ask its just a bargaining game, and i am just interested to help my company and regarding offer letter when anyone join here he/she should have to give all documents +releiving letter bt from there side you just keep moving here and there . I can manage as i had contact with superiors who can help me, bt i really want to help my company and persons working here at least basic needs of everyone should be taken care. I hope nw you will show me the right way.
Thanks
Sudha Sundriyal
From India, Delhi
Dear Sir,
I have joined an Engineering college as Store Manager on 9th Jan 2012, At the time of interview they have asked to sign a bond of 2 yrs and they have taken my Original Graduation Certificate and they have not given any receipt of original document. And on the joinig date they have not issued any Appointment letter. It has been only a week and i've came to know that the other staff that they never issue any receipt of document neither any appointment letter.
Now what should i do to get my original documet back?
Please sugest....
From India, Mumbai
I have joined an Engineering college as Store Manager on 9th Jan 2012, At the time of interview they have asked to sign a bond of 2 yrs and they have taken my Original Graduation Certificate and they have not given any receipt of original document. And on the joinig date they have not issued any Appointment letter. It has been only a week and i've came to know that the other staff that they never issue any receipt of document neither any appointment letter.
Now what should i do to get my original documet back?
Please sugest....
From India, Mumbai
Find answers from people who have previously dealt with business and work issues similar to yours - Please Register and Log In to CiteHR and post your query.
Appointment letter-format.d oc