In our school there were 82 staff under EPF and 91 under ESI for the past two years. Out of the 9 staff left out from EPF, 5 are Bus crew who are aged above 60 years and are receiving EPS pension for previous employment, while 4 who were aged 40 to 50 refused to join EPF. These 4 persons have left on 31-03-2016 after putting in 18 months of service.
The EPF organization has sent a letter recently asking for explanation regarding the difference in EPF and ESI employees from 01-06-2015 to 31-03-2016.
I presume that we are at fault for not enrolling the 4 in EPF and justified in the case of the 5 who are EPS pensioners. Since the 4 have left in 31-03-2016 what is our liability to EPF ?
From India, Madras
The EPF organization has sent a letter recently asking for explanation regarding the difference in EPF and ESI employees from 01-06-2015 to 31-03-2016.
I presume that we are at fault for not enrolling the 4 in EPF and justified in the case of the 5 who are EPS pensioners. Since the 4 have left in 31-03-2016 what is our liability to EPF ?
From India, Madras
For the 4 people, you are liable to pay the employee contribution as well as the employer contribution. You need to submit the salary register for all the months between 1-6-2015 to 31-3-2016, ECR of these period. You need to tally with the both. The difference you are liable to pay. Please don't try to negotiate on this with EPF department. I suggest not to try with any consultant or
You need to generate the challan for these period and make the payment. EPF dept will guide you for this.
Then, you will receive seperate notice for Fine & Damages for these period.
From India, Chennai
100You need to generate the challan for these period and make the payment. EPF dept will guide you for this.
Then, you will receive seperate notice for Fine & Damages for these period.
From India, Chennai
Thank you Mr. Saravanan for your kind reply. Out of these four one has died in May 2016, and I dont know about the particulars of the other three. Without any nomination form obtainable from them and without the UAN number how can the payment be made, and in whose account ? Please enlighten me.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
As per EPFO point of view, we can't escape from the liability by giving these reasons. They need the payment, thats all. The logic is, it should not be our concern whether the employee withdraw the amount or not.
They will ask us to generate new PF Number and generate the challan for those employees. Enforcement officer will assist you for UAN Generation, activation and KYC exemption. Internally, they will do this. Have GOOD relationship with Enforcement Officer. Now, it is deepavali time. Hope you understand.
From India, Chennai
They will ask us to generate new PF Number and generate the challan for those employees. Enforcement officer will assist you for UAN Generation, activation and KYC exemption. Internally, they will do this. Have GOOD relationship with Enforcement Officer. Now, it is deepavali time. Hope you understand.
From India, Chennai
log into ESIC portal, view RC of respective periods, ( you can get no of days and amount of salary for six months block of each employee ) get the IP number
log out from ESIC and come to main page log in with IP login , it will display all details needed to register an employee with EPFO , viz name/ Father(spouse) name, Date of Birth, sex
you can find the nominee details also in ESIC portal with IP login
log out from ESIC and come to main page log in with IP login , it will display all details needed to register an employee with EPFO , viz name/ Father(spouse) name, Date of Birth, sex
you can find the nominee details also in ESIC portal with IP login
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