Hi everyone I m Shweta I have a 6-year gap during my career..now I m going to start my career. I have applied many post but there was no positive response..look forward to guides..What I can do so that I got a job immediately - please suggest.. I have 2-year experience as Lecturer and 2-year experience as in Hr executive
From India, Noida
From India, Noida
Dear Shweta,
Nowadays , companies do consider resources having gap , provided you have genuine reason and justification.
I would suggest, firstly you update yourself with all the latest trends in HR, amendments in labour laws & current demand in the market. Lastly, work on your interpersonal skills, mainly communication, decision , listening skills which plays a vital role in HR domain.
All the best!
Regards
Piyush
Manager HR
From India, Pune
10Nowadays , companies do consider resources having gap , provided you have genuine reason and justification.
I would suggest, firstly you update yourself with all the latest trends in HR, amendments in labour laws & current demand in the market. Lastly, work on your interpersonal skills, mainly communication, decision , listening skills which plays a vital role in HR domain.
All the best!
Regards
Piyush
Manager HR
From India, Pune
Dear Shweta,
Guidance on getting a job in the field of HR will come a little later. First, you need to learn how to write a post on HR forums. While the main body of your post had just a few words, the heading was far longer! Maintaining the verbatim, I have edited your post. Grammar also needs improvement.
Your post, though a very small one, sends a big signal on your casual attitude. If you wish to improve your career in HR then you need to shed this casualness first. This is a forum for the HR professionals and there are many senior persons. Therefore, if you learn to differentiate between the informal posts of Facebook and the formal posts of HR forums, it will serve a big purpose for yourself.
When members upload a post on this forum, indirectly they also demonstrate their communication skills which include the sequence or the structure of the sentence, the choice of the words etc. All these reflect the mindset of the individual. Therefore, whether to impress others with the professional approach or keep others away from the casual approach, the choice is yours!
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Guidance on getting a job in the field of HR will come a little later. First, you need to learn how to write a post on HR forums. While the main body of your post had just a few words, the heading was far longer! Maintaining the verbatim, I have edited your post. Grammar also needs improvement.
Your post, though a very small one, sends a big signal on your casual attitude. If you wish to improve your career in HR then you need to shed this casualness first. This is a forum for the HR professionals and there are many senior persons. Therefore, if you learn to differentiate between the informal posts of Facebook and the formal posts of HR forums, it will serve a big purpose for yourself.
When members upload a post on this forum, indirectly they also demonstrate their communication skills which include the sequence or the structure of the sentence, the choice of the words etc. All these reflect the mindset of the individual. Therefore, whether to impress others with the professional approach or keep others away from the casual approach, the choice is yours!
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Dear Shweta madam,
Please don't get cowed down by the observations of so called Senior colleague that you are casual in your approach as regards seeking guidance for a HR/Lecturers's job after a career gap of six years.
I am afraid, it is difficult to share this misplaced and far- fetched ,curt observation.
Yes, I agree you need to work on your English and grammar and general presentation skills in addition to catching up on latest trends in HR domain if you are seeking job in HR.
In fact with the combination of teaching and HR experience , you might be better suited person to explore opportunity as Training professional as a part of HR team. Side by side , you can hone your skills/ knowledge base by joining part time recognised Certificate course or Diploma course in Training and Development offered by ISTD.
Regards,
HR and Employee Relations Consultant
From India, Mumbai
Please don't get cowed down by the observations of so called Senior colleague that you are casual in your approach as regards seeking guidance for a HR/Lecturers's job after a career gap of six years.
I am afraid, it is difficult to share this misplaced and far- fetched ,curt observation.
Yes, I agree you need to work on your English and grammar and general presentation skills in addition to catching up on latest trends in HR domain if you are seeking job in HR.
In fact with the combination of teaching and HR experience , you might be better suited person to explore opportunity as Training professional as a part of HR team. Side by side , you can hone your skills/ knowledge base by joining part time recognised Certificate course or Diploma course in Training and Development offered by ISTD.
Regards,
HR and Employee Relations Consultant
From India, Mumbai
Hi Everyone,
Thank you so much Nargarkar Vinayak sir to appreciate me. Sir you are correct and I am working on my grammar, inter personal and communication skills.
Thanks Divesh sir for your response this was my first post on CiteHR.
Also Thank you Piyush sir for your guidance.
Thanks
From India, Noida
Thank you so much Nargarkar Vinayak sir to appreciate me. Sir you are correct and I am working on my grammar, inter personal and communication skills.
Thanks Divesh sir for your response this was my first post on CiteHR.
Also Thank you Piyush sir for your guidance.
Thanks
From India, Noida
Dear Mr Vinayak Nagarkar,
This is a reply from the "so-called" senior.
Yes, my feedback was a little upfront. My frankness was for the simple reason that posts on the public forum bound to have public scrutiny. A critical examination of the post(s) sends a right signal to the other members of this forum as well. This is a professional forum and to maintain professionalism, straightforwardness was necessary.
You have advised the poster to take up a job in the field of HR Training. However, may I remind you that a trainer is expected to be head and shoulder above the participants? On a few occasions, trainers get the participants who are far more intelligent. Standing in front of such participants is not a child's play. What if they start pointing mistakes in front of the other participants? In no time, the trainer could lose the confidence of the participants. It may, in turn, lead to loss of the credibility itself. Which client will accept that?
Nevertheless, your suggestion to take up a job in the training profession reminds me famous saying of George Bernard Shaw. He has said, "He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches."
For Shweta: - You could have been a little more thoughtful while writing my name. This was in spite of the feedback from the so-called senior on your casual approach. By mistyping my name, you have provided one more evidence of how cursoriness has entered into your blood. Your casual approach has forced me to give one more advice - be choosy while selecting your future boss. Choose a boss who will mollycoddle and not the one like me who cuts short junior's indulgence without hesitation!
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
This is a reply from the "so-called" senior.
Yes, my feedback was a little upfront. My frankness was for the simple reason that posts on the public forum bound to have public scrutiny. A critical examination of the post(s) sends a right signal to the other members of this forum as well. This is a professional forum and to maintain professionalism, straightforwardness was necessary.
You have advised the poster to take up a job in the field of HR Training. However, may I remind you that a trainer is expected to be head and shoulder above the participants? On a few occasions, trainers get the participants who are far more intelligent. Standing in front of such participants is not a child's play. What if they start pointing mistakes in front of the other participants? In no time, the trainer could lose the confidence of the participants. It may, in turn, lead to loss of the credibility itself. Which client will accept that?
Nevertheless, your suggestion to take up a job in the training profession reminds me famous saying of George Bernard Shaw. He has said, "He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches."
For Shweta: - You could have been a little more thoughtful while writing my name. This was in spite of the feedback from the so-called senior on your casual approach. By mistyping my name, you have provided one more evidence of how cursoriness has entered into your blood. Your casual approach has forced me to give one more advice - be choosy while selecting your future boss. Choose a boss who will mollycoddle and not the one like me who cuts short junior's indulgence without hesitation!
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Hi Everyone, Thanks for all the advice and guidance. Please close this thread as of now as I have got sufficient responses for the future. Thanks
From India, Noida
From India, Noida
Dear Mr Divekar
If your approach was upfront and frank, one would have perhaps appreciated.But yours was that of a bully which is what prompted me to react in the first place.
Your second para indicated that you have made uncalled for assumptions. Given proper opportunity to get into training profession at entry or junior levels and
gaining experience for building required capabilities, one learns to go heads and shoulders above the participants. I am sure , you also went through the same grind.
So where is need for unnecessary apprehensions . Nobody is born with the training capabilities and with efforts and determination, one can surely become one.
I would have liked to refrain from replying, but your habitual misreading posts including mine , has prompted me.
I would like to close this here and do not wish to continue with this any further.
Regards,
Vinayak Nagarkar
HR and Employee Relations Consultant
From India, Mumbai
If your approach was upfront and frank, one would have perhaps appreciated.But yours was that of a bully which is what prompted me to react in the first place.
Your second para indicated that you have made uncalled for assumptions. Given proper opportunity to get into training profession at entry or junior levels and
gaining experience for building required capabilities, one learns to go heads and shoulders above the participants. I am sure , you also went through the same grind.
So where is need for unnecessary apprehensions . Nobody is born with the training capabilities and with efforts and determination, one can surely become one.
I would have liked to refrain from replying, but your habitual misreading posts including mine , has prompted me.
I would like to close this here and do not wish to continue with this any further.
Regards,
Vinayak Nagarkar
HR and Employee Relations Consultant
From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr Vinayak Nagarkar,
I did not wish to you give a reply to your first post also. Nevertheless, your comebacks forced me to do so. Your second post has false accusations. Unfortunately, I am forced to give a reply to clear those accusations.
You have accused me of bullying. However, there is a difference between the strictness/sternness of one's tone and bullying. Bullying means an act of intimidating. Where was the intimidation in the first reply? This is a public forum and each post has to be seen with neutrality. A sane reader will understand sanctity of feedback even though it is given in a forthright manner.
Your second accusation is on my assumption. What assumption I had? Has the poster not left sufficient evidence of egregiousness of her post? Notwithstanding this egregiousness, you have given her advice to look for the position in the training field. So who is overlooking the facts? You or me?
Be it noted that the training field is not for someone who undervalues the quality of the work or the unemployed riffraff. Be the training professionals or otherwise, customers do not featherbed the service providers. I had been Training Manager and for the last 14 years, I am into training full-time. The rigors of the profession I understand best.
Your one more accusation is on misreading the posts or replies habitually. I wish you had provided with a evidence of misreading. My all the replies are to the point and 6694 "likes" or "appreciations" speak in themselves. No further proof is required.
Raising posts on this forum or their replies, need not be a test of one's grammar or English skills. A few mistakes do creep in. However, when a member raises a post that is incompatible to his/her background then why a vigilant member like me should be a silent bystander? Whether anyone liked or not, curt feedback was given in the past and it will be given in the future too.
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
I did not wish to you give a reply to your first post also. Nevertheless, your comebacks forced me to do so. Your second post has false accusations. Unfortunately, I am forced to give a reply to clear those accusations.
You have accused me of bullying. However, there is a difference between the strictness/sternness of one's tone and bullying. Bullying means an act of intimidating. Where was the intimidation in the first reply? This is a public forum and each post has to be seen with neutrality. A sane reader will understand sanctity of feedback even though it is given in a forthright manner.
Your second accusation is on my assumption. What assumption I had? Has the poster not left sufficient evidence of egregiousness of her post? Notwithstanding this egregiousness, you have given her advice to look for the position in the training field. So who is overlooking the facts? You or me?
Be it noted that the training field is not for someone who undervalues the quality of the work or the unemployed riffraff. Be the training professionals or otherwise, customers do not featherbed the service providers. I had been Training Manager and for the last 14 years, I am into training full-time. The rigors of the profession I understand best.
Your one more accusation is on misreading the posts or replies habitually. I wish you had provided with a evidence of misreading. My all the replies are to the point and 6694 "likes" or "appreciations" speak in themselves. No further proof is required.
Raising posts on this forum or their replies, need not be a test of one's grammar or English skills. A few mistakes do creep in. However, when a member raises a post that is incompatible to his/her background then why a vigilant member like me should be a silent bystander? Whether anyone liked or not, curt feedback was given in the past and it will be given in the future too.
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
When one posts in public forum, due care needs to be taken.
Spacing,spelling,grammar etc to the best extent possible.
When one aspires to be a trainer or in HR, communication and presentation does occupy a lot of importance to put your message across.
Even if a member-senior or inexperienced points out some error or what poster feels is an error ,it needs to be taken in right spirit.
From India, Pune
Spacing,spelling,grammar etc to the best extent possible.
When one aspires to be a trainer or in HR, communication and presentation does occupy a lot of importance to put your message across.
Even if a member-senior or inexperienced points out some error or what poster feels is an error ,it needs to be taken in right spirit.
From India, Pune
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