Dear Seniors, I Work in a Spinning Mill as Personnel Manager. Here unauthorised Absenteeism is so high. We have Conducted Many Plans to Control Absenteeism, Such as Attendance Allowance, Best Monthly Attendance Award, Best Yearly Attendance Award and Counselling of Absent workers. We have also Punished Absent Workers, such as " if a workers is absent without notice for more than 10 days and he also don't have any prior reason for absentees, he is than punished as not giving duty for 10 days." we also issue charge sheet for absenteeism According To Labor Law Of Nepal for regular absent workers. But There is no change. Absenteeism are on regular basis.
Huge Absenteeism Problem Time:
1. After Salary Distribution.
2. After the Leave, provided by company for any festival or celebration as Dasahara, Chhat etc .
3. After Weakly off Day.
4. During Farming Season ( Planting & Harvesting).
5. During rainy Season.
6. During Summer Season.
Most workers are Indians from Border side (Bihar) and rest workers are from nearby distance around (50 k.m) from company location. Workers strength is More than 1200. And most workers work for 12 Hours per Day.
So please suggest me to overcome from this problem .
With Regard
From
A. Ray
From Nepal, Kathmandu
Huge Absenteeism Problem Time:
1. After Salary Distribution.
2. After the Leave, provided by company for any festival or celebration as Dasahara, Chhat etc .
3. After Weakly off Day.
4. During Farming Season ( Planting & Harvesting).
5. During rainy Season.
6. During Summer Season.
Most workers are Indians from Border side (Bihar) and rest workers are from nearby distance around (50 k.m) from company location. Workers strength is More than 1200. And most workers work for 12 Hours per Day.
So please suggest me to overcome from this problem .
With Regard
From
A. Ray
From Nepal, Kathmandu
Dear Akhil,
Gentleman, you had raised your post on the same subject on 29-01-2013. On your post, I had given detailed reply. The link is as below:
https://www.citehr.com/448902-absent...e-welfare.html
Your earlier post was on different account. Now it appears that you have created fresh account on Citehr.
In my above reply, I have written in detail the causes of absenteeism. After one year and 10 months, you could have written in your post what steps did you take to circumvent this evil of absenteeism. It appears that you are there where you were in Jan 2013.
Please work on point (h) to (r) given in my above post and come back again.
In your latest post, you have written that workers work for 12 hours. Is this acceptable according to the labour laws of Nepal? In this the major cause of absenteeism? Have you done analysis of cost of absenteeism vis-a-vis cost of increasing the employee count?
By the way, in most of the manufacturing companies, employee cost does not exceed more than 10-15% of total cost. Now suppose if this cost goes up by say 2%, what savings will it accrue, have you done this study?
Thanks,
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
7736Gentleman, you had raised your post on the same subject on 29-01-2013. On your post, I had given detailed reply. The link is as below:
https://www.citehr.com/448902-absent...e-welfare.html
Your earlier post was on different account. Now it appears that you have created fresh account on Citehr.
In my above reply, I have written in detail the causes of absenteeism. After one year and 10 months, you could have written in your post what steps did you take to circumvent this evil of absenteeism. It appears that you are there where you were in Jan 2013.
Please work on point (h) to (r) given in my above post and come back again.
In your latest post, you have written that workers work for 12 hours. Is this acceptable according to the labour laws of Nepal? In this the major cause of absenteeism? Have you done analysis of cost of absenteeism vis-a-vis cost of increasing the employee count?
By the way, in most of the manufacturing companies, employee cost does not exceed more than 10-15% of total cost. Now suppose if this cost goes up by say 2%, what savings will it accrue, have you done this study?
Thanks,
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Dear A.Ray ji,
Your problem is a cronic one. You are doing best to overcome on it. But mind well, it takes time for any change. Any such change can not be in overnight. You need to continue with your attempt to bring change more rigorously. Few cronic cases of absenteeism, you should take drastic steps. You need to dismiss the services of couple of workers. You need to show firmness and toughness in your action. While making attempt of counselling workers you should spread feelers that the company is likely to close its all operations under this circumstances. You should also give picture to them the repercussions on closing the operations of company. You should also sent letters to the families of workers, well drafted giving the entire scenario in the language they understand well.
Skill of your management will play vital role in it.
All the best to you.
From India, Mumbai
Your problem is a cronic one. You are doing best to overcome on it. But mind well, it takes time for any change. Any such change can not be in overnight. You need to continue with your attempt to bring change more rigorously. Few cronic cases of absenteeism, you should take drastic steps. You need to dismiss the services of couple of workers. You need to show firmness and toughness in your action. While making attempt of counselling workers you should spread feelers that the company is likely to close its all operations under this circumstances. You should also give picture to them the repercussions on closing the operations of company. You should also sent letters to the families of workers, well drafted giving the entire scenario in the language they understand well.
Skill of your management will play vital role in it.
All the best to you.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Dinesh ji,
By the time you responded to the post, I also responded to the post and could see your response thereafter.
I also noticed many members have more than one account in different names but we can not do any thing except appealing members not to have more than one account and co-operate the site / forum administrators.
In your response dated 30.01.2013 you have rightly listed out the root causes of absenteeism. One need to find out the root causes and should take corrective steps immediately. 12 hours duty may be one of the root causes.
From India, Mumbai
By the time you responded to the post, I also responded to the post and could see your response thereafter.
I also noticed many members have more than one account in different names but we can not do any thing except appealing members not to have more than one account and co-operate the site / forum administrators.
In your response dated 30.01.2013 you have rightly listed out the root causes of absenteeism. One need to find out the root causes and should take corrective steps immediately. 12 hours duty may be one of the root causes.
From India, Mumbai
Dear A.Ray ji,
In continuation with my earlier posts, I would like to add as under:
Any workman should love to work in a given work place. You should create such atmosphere / environment at work place. You should able to understand the problems or grievances of workers and able to solve it Instantly.
There are so many trainers available who can help you to change the atmosphere at work place so that workers start loving their job. Try it.
I do not know our learned member Shri. Dinesh Divekar takes such kind of programms. Please find out.
From India, Mumbai
In continuation with my earlier posts, I would like to add as under:
Any workman should love to work in a given work place. You should create such atmosphere / environment at work place. You should able to understand the problems or grievances of workers and able to solve it Instantly.
There are so many trainers available who can help you to change the atmosphere at work place so that workers start loving their job. Try it.
I do not know our learned member Shri. Dinesh Divekar takes such kind of programms. Please find out.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Seniors,
Thank U Very Much For Yours Response. Actually 12 Hour work is also a major element of absenteeism and it is also not a law of Nepal to make any worker work for 12 hours forcefully. but if they wishes to work for 12 hours we can provide them. so as we are providing. Here is so much problems of skilled workers, so providing 12 hours duty is our compulsion. Most of workers are from Farming Background. so please suggest me for absenteeism control.
Thank You
Regard
A. Ray
From Nepal, Kathmandu
Thank U Very Much For Yours Response. Actually 12 Hour work is also a major element of absenteeism and it is also not a law of Nepal to make any worker work for 12 hours forcefully. but if they wishes to work for 12 hours we can provide them. so as we are providing. Here is so much problems of skilled workers, so providing 12 hours duty is our compulsion. Most of workers are from Farming Background. so please suggest me for absenteeism control.
Thank You
Regard
A. Ray
From Nepal, Kathmandu
Dear Mr. Dinesh V Divekar sir & Mr. Keshav Korgaonkar sir
Thank You For Your Re-Suggestion. Actually I Missed my previous login ID and Password so i Have to Make a New Login. So Sorry For That. Sir Please suggest me how to analysis the cost of absenteeism. I Have worked on Point (H) and (R) . Company Have A Good Brand Image in Market. and we also dont use to force workers to do duty for 12 hours. But who wishes to work for 12 Hours Duty We Provide Them. We also use to keep trainee but still absenteeism is the major problem here.
With Regard
From
A. Ray
From Nepal, Kathmandu
Thank You For Your Re-Suggestion. Actually I Missed my previous login ID and Password so i Have to Make a New Login. So Sorry For That. Sir Please suggest me how to analysis the cost of absenteeism. I Have worked on Point (H) and (R) . Company Have A Good Brand Image in Market. and we also dont use to force workers to do duty for 12 hours. But who wishes to work for 12 Hours Duty We Provide Them. We also use to keep trainee but still absenteeism is the major problem here.
With Regard
From
A. Ray
From Nepal, Kathmandu
Dear A. Ray ji,
If you are saying, farming background is one of the root cause, you need to attack on it. You should make several attempts to bring them in to industry culture. You should pay them more than what they get in farming. Then only you can control the absenteeism.
From India, Mumbai
If you are saying, farming background is one of the root cause, you need to attack on it. You should make several attempts to bring them in to industry culture. You should pay them more than what they get in farming. Then only you can control the absenteeism.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Moderators / Site Administrators / Site Owners,
I am surprised to see once again that my value added (according to me) posts are deleted by you from this thread.
I do not know how many such posts of mine deleted up till now by you. But I noticed many.
I am also surprised to see that a value added post by Shri. Dinesh Divekar is also deleted from this thread. I had given an appreciation to this post of Shri. Divekar.
My request to you, if you feel my posts or discussions are not appropriate, please let me know. I will stop posting.
I have gain lot of knowledge in this platform, no doubt. I tried to GIVE BACK to the society honestly through my over 1600 postings, re- setting my priorities during past 2 years. If my GIVE BACK does not reach to the society, why should I continue to contribute on this platform?
From India, Mumbai
I am surprised to see once again that my value added (according to me) posts are deleted by you from this thread.
I do not know how many such posts of mine deleted up till now by you. But I noticed many.
I am also surprised to see that a value added post by Shri. Dinesh Divekar is also deleted from this thread. I had given an appreciation to this post of Shri. Divekar.
My request to you, if you feel my posts or discussions are not appropriate, please let me know. I will stop posting.
I have gain lot of knowledge in this platform, no doubt. I tried to GIVE BACK to the society honestly through my over 1600 postings, re- setting my priorities during past 2 years. If my GIVE BACK does not reach to the society, why should I continue to contribute on this platform?
From India, Mumbai
Problems mentioned are typical in such scenario. There are several interlinked issues which compels the farm workers to go back to their farms. They make use of this season to attend to their farms and spend some time with families.
The absenteeism after holidays and after wages can also be easily understood. Giving more money would only lead to more wasteful expenditure such as drinking and also absenteeism.
You may take up with the company to modify their production plans to cater for this seasonal migration. Regarding absenteeism after holidays unions and families may be taken in to confidence and payment may be made in such a way that employees get only minimum amount in their hands and rest is paid to their families in a periodicity which is beneficial to the families.
As you can not change the workers habit in short span of time you need to think of innovative ways to overcome the issue. Please don't expect them to become typical mumbaikar who would go to his workplace come what may.
I suggest interaction with the families abd unions of delinquent workers
From India, Thane
The absenteeism after holidays and after wages can also be easily understood. Giving more money would only lead to more wasteful expenditure such as drinking and also absenteeism.
You may take up with the company to modify their production plans to cater for this seasonal migration. Regarding absenteeism after holidays unions and families may be taken in to confidence and payment may be made in such a way that employees get only minimum amount in their hands and rest is paid to their families in a periodicity which is beneficial to the families.
As you can not change the workers habit in short span of time you need to think of innovative ways to overcome the issue. Please don't expect them to become typical mumbaikar who would go to his workplace come what may.
I suggest interaction with the families abd unions of delinquent workers
From India, Thane
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