Hi Aaron,
Apart from the comments of your behavior by our fellow members, here lies my part.
Offer decline by a candidate is very common nowadays. I have faced situation wherein the candidate called up on his joining date to say that he is not joining. Another worst situation, one candidate, when found that he didn't come in on time on his joining date, and a HR person called him to take his status. The candidate's reply was "Oops I forgot to mention that I would not be able to join" :) All these would definitely form a bad cloud for the HR & TA team. Many candidates after receiving their first offer, will surely look out to fish. That is a common behavior of any human.
However that does not mean that the HR should carry personal vengeance/grudge on any candidate. Again any HR cannot spoil your career or black list you from getting a job, for the reason specified by you. Even if that HR spreads out the information in his network, it would not help him to prevent you getting a job. Any HR is bounded to their organizational goals and taking somebody's word, if can, will not help him/her. If you have a valid reason for rejecting the offer, including you accepting a better offer, then go ahead without any second thought.
Also please ensure that you do not repeat the process of offer rejection again. Always remember that this is a small world. One of my friend (HR) happened to experience an offer rejection situation and later in his new company the candidate who rejected the offer in his earlier company was finalized. This guy (my friend) did not show himself before the candidate and an offer was rolled out. When the joining date was closing by, my friend pulled back the offer, which was extended to the candidate. I completely understand that this is unfair. However at that point the affected party is the candidate. Think over and wish you good luck!
From India, Bangalore
476Apart from the comments of your behavior by our fellow members, here lies my part.
Offer decline by a candidate is very common nowadays. I have faced situation wherein the candidate called up on his joining date to say that he is not joining. Another worst situation, one candidate, when found that he didn't come in on time on his joining date, and a HR person called him to take his status. The candidate's reply was "Oops I forgot to mention that I would not be able to join" :) All these would definitely form a bad cloud for the HR & TA team. Many candidates after receiving their first offer, will surely look out to fish. That is a common behavior of any human.
However that does not mean that the HR should carry personal vengeance/grudge on any candidate. Again any HR cannot spoil your career or black list you from getting a job, for the reason specified by you. Even if that HR spreads out the information in his network, it would not help him to prevent you getting a job. Any HR is bounded to their organizational goals and taking somebody's word, if can, will not help him/her. If you have a valid reason for rejecting the offer, including you accepting a better offer, then go ahead without any second thought.
Also please ensure that you do not repeat the process of offer rejection again. Always remember that this is a small world. One of my friend (HR) happened to experience an offer rejection situation and later in his new company the candidate who rejected the offer in his earlier company was finalized. This guy (my friend) did not show himself before the candidate and an offer was rolled out. When the joining date was closing by, my friend pulled back the offer, which was extended to the candidate. I completely understand that this is unfair. However at that point the affected party is the candidate. Think over and wish you good luck!
From India, Bangalore
Hi Aron
All the learned members have given a balanced assessment of the situation. I have nothing to add and at the same time I have nothing to choose much between you and the HR of the company in terms of professionalism (or the lack of it). The lesson that needs to be learnt is do a thorough analysis of an offer before accepting it in future. Unless there is very reliable adverse information coming to one's notice about the company in the last minute which is very remote, one should honour one's commitment and shall not back out on the basis of imaginary doubts or for commercial considerations like more pay.
B.Saikumar
From India, Mumbai
All the learned members have given a balanced assessment of the situation. I have nothing to add and at the same time I have nothing to choose much between you and the HR of the company in terms of professionalism (or the lack of it). The lesson that needs to be learnt is do a thorough analysis of an offer before accepting it in future. Unless there is very reliable adverse information coming to one's notice about the company in the last minute which is very remote, one should honour one's commitment and shall not back out on the basis of imaginary doubts or for commercial considerations like more pay.
B.Saikumar
From India, Mumbai
Hi Aaron
Relax! No one can do so unless he is in Politics or amongst top 5 rich people in the world. And I am sure you are not that great a celebrity that people will take out time especially to demean you or spoil your future!!
This is only a trick to make you join and complete own hiring target. You meet all sort of people in the world. Forget it and do what you are convinced to do.
Chill.. Tk Cr,
Regards
Rupinder
From India, Delhi
Relax! No one can do so unless he is in Politics or amongst top 5 rich people in the world. And I am sure you are not that great a celebrity that people will take out time especially to demean you or spoil your future!!
This is only a trick to make you join and complete own hiring target. You meet all sort of people in the world. Forget it and do what you are convinced to do.
Chill.. Tk Cr,
Regards
Rupinder
From India, Delhi
Aaron Joseph: I would say this is totally unprofessional behavior by the employee if he backed out without any valid reason. It would cost HR of the respective company a lot. Here cost means in different types (Time waste, recruitment cost etc.) And the major problem here in this situation is that it may be possible HR facing a lot of attrition for the position you were about to join and backed out. So, he got frustrated. HR is also a human being he can have all the feeling. But ultimately i am not supporting the incident of HR THREATENING employee to join forcibly, But i would suggest you to attend interviews for which you are at least 95 percent sure that you are gonna join that company.
Generalizing the issue,
Let us see the survey by Harvard
out of every 100 candidates of any interview in INDIA just 13 people are really attend it with passion.
Regards,
Ravi Teja
HR
From India, Hyderabad
Generalizing the issue,
Let us see the survey by Harvard
out of every 100 candidates of any interview in INDIA just 13 people are really attend it with passion.
Regards,
Ravi Teja
HR
From India, Hyderabad
Mr Aaron
Your Query: " HR is threatening me telling that " he will make sure that I will never get into any company for the same designation. because he had made several arrangements etc.. Please help.
Position: Threatening intimidating anyone not joining any Company for whatever reason in whatever
circumstances is Unlawful and punishable Act. In addition, such heinous act on the part of HR
Personnel must be condemned by H R Mgt & Dev Community. In any eventuality stooping Low
is dwarfing the HR Profession.
In case threat persists or perpetuates, Legal Action under the Law for such criminal attempt is
unavoidable. Right to Work & Right to Life with Dignity are any India's Fundamental Rights not
restricted by last minute change of mind and all accused are guaranteed the Rights
You may inform the Company to instruct the HR Personnel to desist from intimidating. At most,
the Company might ask you to recompense the loss.
Kritarth Consulting Pvt. Ltd
11.11.13, 7.40 p.m.
From India, Delhi
Your Query: " HR is threatening me telling that " he will make sure that I will never get into any company for the same designation. because he had made several arrangements etc.. Please help.
Position: Threatening intimidating anyone not joining any Company for whatever reason in whatever
circumstances is Unlawful and punishable Act. In addition, such heinous act on the part of HR
Personnel must be condemned by H R Mgt & Dev Community. In any eventuality stooping Low
is dwarfing the HR Profession.
In case threat persists or perpetuates, Legal Action under the Law for such criminal attempt is
unavoidable. Right to Work & Right to Life with Dignity are any India's Fundamental Rights not
restricted by last minute change of mind and all accused are guaranteed the Rights
You may inform the Company to instruct the HR Personnel to desist from intimidating. At most,
the Company might ask you to recompense the loss.
Kritarth Consulting Pvt. Ltd
11.11.13, 7.40 p.m.
From India, Delhi
Hi,
Mr. Vijayan Krishnan has quote the issue right way. In the said case both the parties apporoach is unprofessional. So, to sum up from candidate's point of view its better that he denied the organization wherein such a immature HR person works who is giving wrong impression of the company to the market being a showcase of the organization.
From company point of view, better the candidate not joined where the issue of transperancy, trust and committment comes.
So, its win win situation !!
From India, Karjat
Mr. Vijayan Krishnan has quote the issue right way. In the said case both the parties apporoach is unprofessional. So, to sum up from candidate's point of view its better that he denied the organization wherein such a immature HR person works who is giving wrong impression of the company to the market being a showcase of the organization.
From company point of view, better the candidate not joined where the issue of transperancy, trust and committment comes.
So, its win win situation !!
From India, Karjat
Hi.
Yes.. as HR person it irritates when the candidate is committed to join and doesnt join on the said date, by giving some or other excuse.
The candidate wont understand, that what is the current situation in that company. As he backs out.. he/she have to go through the procedure again.
Many candidates may not be aware that some portals, have option of Comments on resume. And Yes, sometimes the HR can do that.
But you dont worry, its ok... you can be tension-free, as the company wont be knowing where you have joined.
And always make sure that you a commitment which you can fulfill and dont BACK-OUT !!
From India, Mumbai
Yes.. as HR person it irritates when the candidate is committed to join and doesnt join on the said date, by giving some or other excuse.
The candidate wont understand, that what is the current situation in that company. As he backs out.. he/she have to go through the procedure again.
Many candidates may not be aware that some portals, have option of Comments on resume. And Yes, sometimes the HR can do that.
But you dont worry, its ok... you can be tension-free, as the company wont be knowing where you have joined.
And always make sure that you a commitment which you can fulfill and dont BACK-OUT !!
From India, Mumbai
Dear Aarin,
As all have rightly said, Backing out at the last moment is not a professional approach and the company must have had certain expenses for your joining.
However, even if you had accpeted the offer letter, it does not mean that you have been legally bound yourself to the company. You have the right to say no if you do not want something.
But please do not do it at the last moment.
And as far as threatening is concerned, nobody can do so.
Its your life.
Go ahead and follow what you feel for yourself. Just do it the Professional way!
Regards
Prasad
From India, Bangalore
As all have rightly said, Backing out at the last moment is not a professional approach and the company must have had certain expenses for your joining.
However, even if you had accpeted the offer letter, it does not mean that you have been legally bound yourself to the company. You have the right to say no if you do not want something.
But please do not do it at the last moment.
And as far as threatening is concerned, nobody can do so.
Its your life.
Go ahead and follow what you feel for yourself. Just do it the Professional way!
Regards
Prasad
From India, Bangalore
Hello Aaron, so many professionals gave you their comments. Dear you agreed with the organization to join them and then in the last minute you refused their offer. If you put yourself in HR manager's shoes, you will realise that its a long process to hire someone, advertising, screening, interviewing, checking and verifing documents and then appointing. And after so many stages, if the employee refuses to join, so It really hurts.
As far as the HR manager concerned, he will not be able to do anything with you but you made big mistake and you should apologize him and deal him professionally. Anyone can make mistake and we are not bound to work for anyone but the behave of HR manager is extra ordinary. You ruined his all efforts and joining some other organization, so he/she is just upset and don't want to loose you.
Well apologize with him/her and try to avoid such behaviour in your future.
From Saudi Arabia, Jeddah
As far as the HR manager concerned, he will not be able to do anything with you but you made big mistake and you should apologize him and deal him professionally. Anyone can make mistake and we are not bound to work for anyone but the behave of HR manager is extra ordinary. You ruined his all efforts and joining some other organization, so he/she is just upset and don't want to loose you.
Well apologize with him/her and try to avoid such behaviour in your future.
From Saudi Arabia, Jeddah
It is understandable that the HR feels sour about your action. Lost of time, effort and maybe money. Whatever reasons you have the HR's blood pressures boiled because they are pressured by the management and would now take so much of their time to find your replacement. Sure enough, threatening you is not proper and unprofessional.
Regards.
From Philippines, Davao City
Regards.
From Philippines, Davao City
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