Dear Seniors,
The concept behind getting the signature of the employer is that the claimant has left the organisation. Also, the PF department should know on hand about the past contributions deducted/made on behalf of such employers.
On the other hand, every employer is required to file annual returns of the deductions in March. Hence, for employees who have left long before, the contributions must have been filed and it will not be a difficult task for the department to find the balance available.
Also, think of a position where many companies are closed. In such cases, where can an employee go to get the signture (Probably if it is chit fund, he can try his luck in jails!!)
So logically, the department can not hold your claim for lack of employer's signature. I do not think that we need any settled legal position for this. If the department is refusing to accept the claim in spite of any mention in the individuals application to the effect that the employer is refusing to sign/employer is no more existing, then it is a gross violation by the department. If the employer is live, then the department can call for the explanation from the employer as the statutory payments can not be withheld at any cost.
Krishnaraj P R
9840355204
From India, Madras
3The concept behind getting the signature of the employer is that the claimant has left the organisation. Also, the PF department should know on hand about the past contributions deducted/made on behalf of such employers.
On the other hand, every employer is required to file annual returns of the deductions in March. Hence, for employees who have left long before, the contributions must have been filed and it will not be a difficult task for the department to find the balance available.
Also, think of a position where many companies are closed. In such cases, where can an employee go to get the signture (Probably if it is chit fund, he can try his luck in jails!!)
So logically, the department can not hold your claim for lack of employer's signature. I do not think that we need any settled legal position for this. If the department is refusing to accept the claim in spite of any mention in the individuals application to the effect that the employer is refusing to sign/employer is no more existing, then it is a gross violation by the department. If the employer is live, then the department can call for the explanation from the employer as the statutory payments can not be withheld at any cost.
Krishnaraj P R
9840355204
From India, Madras
It may be wrong on the part of the EPF authorities to return the withdrawal form for want of previous employer's signature. At the most EPF authorities can insist for an affidavit to be executed by the claiment and then settle the claim if otherwise in order.
regards
madhwa
From India, Mumbai
regards
madhwa
From India, Mumbai
Good message for all employee of the company. Thanks for your reply. how can i check my PF Balance bcz I am already worked in private company in chennai for the last 2 1/2 years, my company does not issue any PF statement to me.
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Dear Samita Kakkar & others
The procedure to be followed by the member if the employer is not attesting his claim forms?
It is the duty of the employer under the Act & Scheme to help Employees' Provident Fund organisation to settle the Provident Fund dues of his employees. He has to complete the prescribed application within 5 days of receipt [para72(5)] forms & hand over it to the member when he leaves the service. When a member finds difficult to get the form attested by the employer, he can get the attestation of any of the following officer & send to the Provident Fund office
1. Manager of a bank.
2. By any gazetted officer.
3. Member of the Central Board of Trustees./ committee/ Regional Committee (Employees'
Provident Fund Organization).
Magistrate/ Post/ Sub Post Master/ President of Village Panchayat/ Notary Public.
If you do not received your claim, you kindly contact to me over phone, the P.F.deptt. can not deny the P.F.withdrawl attested by the above, as it has also been written in their pumphlets.
Thanks
SHISH RAM UNIYAL
09811681660
From India, New Delhi
The procedure to be followed by the member if the employer is not attesting his claim forms?
It is the duty of the employer under the Act & Scheme to help Employees' Provident Fund organisation to settle the Provident Fund dues of his employees. He has to complete the prescribed application within 5 days of receipt [para72(5)] forms & hand over it to the member when he leaves the service. When a member finds difficult to get the form attested by the employer, he can get the attestation of any of the following officer & send to the Provident Fund office
1. Manager of a bank.
2. By any gazetted officer.
3. Member of the Central Board of Trustees./ committee/ Regional Committee (Employees'
Provident Fund Organization).
Magistrate/ Post/ Sub Post Master/ President of Village Panchayat/ Notary Public.
If you do not received your claim, you kindly contact to me over phone, the P.F.deptt. can not deny the P.F.withdrawl attested by the above, as it has also been written in their pumphlets.
Thanks
SHISH RAM UNIYAL
09811681660
From India, New Delhi
if a employee covered in PF & working with us from last 3 yrs, now he need some partial amount from his pf amount. is there is any provision for withdraw amount. plz guide me. K.K.Jangid.
From India, Ghaziabad
From India, Ghaziabad
There is no partial withdrawal of PF but for some specific purposes, say for marriage, eduaction of children, meeting hospitalisation expenses, construction/ purchase of houses, non receipt of salary for at least two months etc and following some service eligibility conditions, advance from PF will be given. For marriage, a minimum service of seven years and for construction/ purchase of residential building a minimum service of five years is mandatory. For details please go through the website of EPFO.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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